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Offline Slow73

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Arrow weight and camo
« on: March 19, 2017, 11:13:10 PM »
Hi all I have two questions:

a) I'm a little confused about arrow weight. I will be shooting 250 grain CE Piledriver Hunter with 100 grain G5 Montecs. By my math that equals 350 grains but seems that's not so when I read others who are shooting similar weight arrows and heads. They seem to get a heavier weighted setup. Why is that?

b) What is a good camo pattern for the early bow season around here? I'm thinking Mossyoak Obsession or Realtree Xtra Green. I will mostly likely be hunting from the ground employing a fabric blind. What do you suggest?

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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2017, 11:19:18 PM »
I think your look at spine. Look at how many grn per inch (gpi) the arrows are. State has a min arrow weight.

As to camo any really unless your after turkey. Turkey have very good sight. Deer and elk can't see colors like we do. Look for a pattern to helps break up your out line
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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 11:40:29 PM »
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.

http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter

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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 11:52:33 PM »
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.

http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.

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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 11:53:56 PM »
Really need more info, arrow length mostly.

demontang is right.  The 250 on the shaft refers to the spine of the shaft.  The grains per inch should be on the shaft in really small print.  If not it's available on their website.  Real quick, spine refers to the flexibility of the shaft.  The 250 ought to be good to about 60 lbs at 29".  Remember to do the calculation for adjusted peak weight of the bow.  It does matter!   :tup:
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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2017, 11:58:22 PM »
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.

http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.

Did you add the 25 grains for the components?  :dunno:
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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 12:05:22 AM »
As for the camo...it really doesn't matter.  Back in the day we killed plenty of animals wearing red  and black checked mackinaws.   :chuckle:  Breaking up your outline is what's important.  Any forest type camo will work on the west side. 
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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 02:43:40 AM »
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.

http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.

Did you add the 25 grains for the components?  :dunno:

Blazer vane 6 grains X 3 = 18 grains
Insert = 11 grains
Bulldog Collar = 4 grains
Launchpad Nock = 10 grains
............
Total = 43 grains
perhaps some glue weight so figure 45 grains

I've seen Montec vary in weight out of package too.
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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 12:32:12 PM »
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.

http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.

Did you add the 25 grains for the components?  :dunno:
Ahh that. That's prolly where the extra weight I'm seeing is coming from.  :bash:

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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 01:13:39 PM »
Just throwing this out FYI.  Heavier arrow set ups (total weight of 450 GNs and up) are better for many reasons (better penetration, make your bow quieter/less vibration as they absorb the bow's stored energy better, and are arguably easier to tune).  Camo?  Pattern is not nearly as important as material!  Get clothing that can be layered for maximum effectiveness, and, ensure you have good moisture wicking base and mid layers (merino wool or poly/poly blend).     
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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:58:45 AM »
For camo this is what I got with for early season and if it's cold I throw on long underwear underneath. This is my all time favorite early season camo I have worn. It's super quiet literally I can not hear it at all. I wear the silent hunter pants as well. Good camo at a very reasonable price. I'm going to order another pair because I lost quite a bit of weight and need to buy large. I like the chest pocket in the shirt, usually keep my range finder around my neck but inside the pocket to keep the weight off so it's not annoying and then it's accessible as well.
http://www.rockyboots.com/rocky-mens-apparel/rocky-silenthunter-1%2F4-zip-shirt/600546.html?dwvar_600546_color=AP#pmin=0&sz=20&start=1

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Re: Arrow weight and camo
« Reply #11 on: Today at 09:32:26 AM »
Camo - I have pretty strict requirements.  What ever pattern is on sale. 

 

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