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BHA Stream Access Pledge
« on: March 20, 2017, 02:29:22 PM »
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Stream Access Now Pledge!

All Americans should have the opportunity to enjoy our nationís great outdoors. Access to our rivers and streams is crucial to upholding our outdoor traditions. While private property rights must be respected, I believe that everyone should be able to access our rivers and streams. The ability to hunt, fish and float these waterways should not depend on an individualís economic means or social standing. I pledge to defend our opportunities to access Americaís waterways and to join others in sustaining our outdoor legacy.

http://www.backcountryhunters.org/stream_access_now_pledge
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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 02:57:51 PM »
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You know what they say, never crap in one hand and slap a gift horse in the mouth.

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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2017, 10:53:16 AM »
Thanks for adding this. 

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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 12:18:01 PM »
I don't quite understand what signing this pledge means. Is there more?

Are  they saying we need access regardless of private property? So if for instance I own a property near a river on a good fishing hole people can just hang out in my front yard and walk back and forth across it every time they want to go to their truck that the parked up by the entrance to my driveway? In Washington people are already allowed to access most rivers via the river as long as they don't get on the riverbank, you just float down in a boat and stand in 2" of water if you want to get out.

No offense, but this pledge is to vague for me.

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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 01:02:36 PM »
I don't quite understand what signing this pledge means. Is there more?

Are  they saying we need access regardless of private property? So if for instance I own a property near a river on a good fishing hole people can just hang out in my front yard and walk back and forth across it every time they want to go to their truck that the parked up by the entrance to my driveway? In Washington people are already allowed to access most rivers via the river as long as they don't get on the riverbank, you just float down in a boat and stand in 2" of water if you want to get out.

No offense, but this pledge is to vague for me.


Really the legal line in WA is the high water mark. You don't have to be actually standing in the water.

I agree this pledge is very vague. I bet it's focused more on places like Montana where it's illegal to float a river through private property.
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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 08:26:10 PM »
Can any of the BHA members elaborate on this pledge?  Are you proposing legislation nationally to preserve access streams even if it is in private?

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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 08:36:58 PM »
I'm a member and if I'm wrong I hope another, more knowledgable, person corrects me. I believe this issue is mainly a Montana issue where big land owners are trying to change the state constitution to minimize access to the general public on steams through private property.
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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 09:59:38 PM »
Is BHA a lobbying organization?

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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #8 on: Today at 07:10:43 AM »
I'm a member and if I'm wrong I hope another, more knowledgable, person corrects me. I believe this issue is mainly a Montana issue where big land owners are trying to change the state constitution to minimize access to the general public on steams through private property.
I think that's where this is coming from.  Montana has some crazy rules about stream access and BHA is working to find access

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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #9 on: Today at 07:16:14 AM »
I don't quite understand what signing this pledge means. Is there more?

Are  they saying we need access regardless of private property? So if for instance I own a property near a river on a good fishing hole people can just hang out in my front yard and walk back and forth across it every time they want to go to their truck that the parked up by the entrance to my driveway? In Washington people are already allowed to access most rivers via the river as long as they don't get on the riverbank, you just float down in a boat and stand in 2" of water if you want to get out.

No offense, but this pledge is to vague for me.

a few minutes of research reveals that this is not about "walking across someone's yard". It's pretty straightforward: If you are a private property owner with a body of water running alongside (or through) your property, you don't own that section of the water. It might be your land above a high water mark or the beach area outside of water, but the stream bed and water are by and large public (and this pledge argues they should remain that way.)
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Re: BHA Stream Access Pledge
« Reply #10 on: Today at 07:30:41 AM »
Is BHA a lobbying organization?

Yes, in the sense that BHA's primary goals are public lands, public streams, and access and all of that is controlled by governmental bodies and managed by governmental agencies. BHA has to petition politicians and organize campaigns on behalf of protecting and preserving our public places. Its a conservation group that deals directly with local, state and federal bodies among other actions.
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