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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2017, 09:35:07 PM »
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2017, 05:08:20 AM »
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2017, 07:07:43 AM »
Black bears are burly everywhere it doesn't count. Meaning they have thin skin and relatively light bones. Shoot whatever works in your rifle for deer and elk.
Huh? Alway thought hides were thicker and bones bigger and denser on even small bear compared to big deer? Am I wrong?
And yes, hit them in the right spot, dead bear. Some just don't know it as quickly and travel farther
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2017, 07:08:27 AM »
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2017, 07:36:58 AM »
I have very little bear experience.  I've killed one and been in on a few other kills.  I've literally been in on hundreds of dead deer and elk.  The bears always shock me how thin their skin is compared to an old buck or bull.  Projectile into the vitals, type of projectile isn't that important.
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2017, 08:51:07 AM »
Speaking bears specifically--I've only every shot at them but haven't hit one yet. 

People talk about bears being hard to drop--they keep running and running, won't go down, etc.  I think many of these people take out the shoulder purposely or shoot too far forward of the vitals.  A bear's vitals aren't in the pocket behind the shoulder, like a deer's or elk's.  You almost need to aim midway between the front and rear legs to hit the lungs.


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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2017, 09:29:24 AM »
Speaking bears specifically--I've only every shot at them but haven't hit one yet. 

People talk about bears being hard to drop--they keep running and running, won't go down, etc.  I think many of these people take out the shoulder purposely or shoot too far forward of the vitals.  A bear's vitals aren't in the pocket behind the shoulder, like a deer's or elk's.  You almost need to aim midway between the front and rear legs to hit the lungs.

Since you haven't hit one I'm assuming you haven't field dressed one.  I have a few bears under my belt and have helped on others.   Bears have a smaller chest cavity then deer.  If you shoot midway between the front and back legs you may not hit the lungs.   Unless all the bears I have shot we're freaks of nature.   Hold tight to the shoulder 1/3 the way up and you will have a dead bear. 

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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2017, 10:03:33 AM »
I've never had an issue center punching the shoulders with a rifle in hand. Bow is tight to the back of the shoulder like anything else.

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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 10:09:15 AM »
Black bears are burly everywhere it doesn't count. Meaning they have thin skin and relatively light bones. Shoot whatever works in your rifle for deer and elk.
Huh? Alway thought hides were thicker and bones bigger and denser on even small bear compared to big deer? Am I wrong?
And yes, hit them in the right spot, dead bear. Some just don't know it as quickly and travel farther

Their vertebrae and leg bones are bulky. Thin skin though and ribs like a deer. The actual leather isn't thick at all. Nothing even close to an elk and in most cases, about like a whitetail
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2017, 11:08:41 AM »
I have been using a lot of plain softpoints,But walk in,backcountry hunts these are my go to rounds,I have had deer,bear ,drop , or ten feet with a river of blood,they leave a hole little bigger than a quarter,and u wanna hit the ribs,any where else your making hamburger.They go through and through and hold most of there weight.
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2017, 11:21:23 AM »
Take out both lungs and they just don't go far at all.
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Re: Copper, VLD or bonded bullet?
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2017, 10:33:27 AM »
My bear/elk rifle is a 300wm and it really likesorry the 190g accubond long range pills, but the bear don't seem to like them much!

 

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