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Do you support NON magnifying scopes for muzzle loaders?

Yes
76 (38%)
No
124 (62%)

Total Members Voted: 200

Voting closed: June 20, 2017, 08:19:14 AM

Author Topic: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?  (Read 40009 times)

Offline Jonathan_S

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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #90 on: March 25, 2017, 04:58:36 PM »
:yeah: Everyone has a point!

So you know, we are in disagreement on the issue
we sure are,but you will surely debate in another thread someday with opposite ideals as you are now, arguing the same as i am here.

And what ideals might they be?
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #91 on: March 25, 2017, 06:13:30 PM »
oh you know,less restrictions.

I am fine hunting without glass,i don't only think of how i feel about things like this though.everyone on here more than likely has said at one time or another on here or off that we have to many restrictions in hunting.Bear baiting gone,hounds gone.deer baiting limited almost gone.access passes,hatchery fish debates,tribal debates,all kinds of things on this forum i could go on for days.When its something you want you fight the people that don't want and we continue to loose because we cannot get together on anything as a collective group.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2017, 06:36:42 PM »
That's a copout.

It's a primitive season, using (mostly) primitive technologies. For people with diagnosable vision impairment there are already concessions made.

I'm not just thinking about myself. My dad and I used to hunt together every muzzleloading season until... you guessed it. Now he hunts modern.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #93 on: March 25, 2017, 06:45:06 PM »
if you ever said like i said then you are being a hypocrite, can you cede that to me?i didn't say you're only thinking of you,i said you're picking and choosing what wdfw should or should not restrict.When i said that we all want less restrictions.


Do you want less or more restrictions?
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #94 on: March 25, 2017, 06:50:22 PM »
Maybe we should just take all restrictions out of it and all hunt together in one free for all season oh mah? Give the state 12 days for a no holds barred anything goes season?
The hypocrite point you try to make just doesn't hold water. It is a choice to hunt with a muzzy. You know the rules going into it. Adding glass optics to a muzzy would certainly increase the effective range and also harvest rates I think. It would also give the ability to increase effective range drastically over iron sights by having a much smaller aiming point and repeatable turrets.  :twocents:

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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #95 on: March 25, 2017, 06:52:09 PM »
if you ever said like i said then you are being a hypocrite, can you cede that to me?i didn't say you're only thinking of you,i said you're picking and choosing what wdfw should or should not restrict.When i said that we all want less restrictions.


Do you want less or more restrictions?

The number of restrictions is not as important as their effect on sportsman and game.

Your point that people supporting some regulations and not others are being hypocritical is ill conceived. Frail argument that doesn't pass the sniff test.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #96 on: March 25, 2017, 06:53:48 PM »
Maybe we should just take all restrictions out of it and all hunt together in one free for all season oh mah? Give the state 12 days for a no holds barred anything goes season?
The hypocrite point you try to make just doesn't hold water. It is a choice to hunt with a muzzy. You know the rules going into it. Adding glass optics to a muzzy would certainly increase the effective range and also harvest rates I think. It would also give the ability to increase effective range drastically over iron sights by having a much smaller aiming point and repeatable turrets.  :twocents:
thats kinda what others said in a diff. thread.kill all the game so the natives have to start over,i disagreed but sure was a few on here that thought that was a good idea.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #97 on: March 25, 2017, 06:55:48 PM »
I wonder how many non muzzy hunters are voting in this poll.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #98 on: March 25, 2017, 06:57:16 PM »
Maybe we should just take all restrictions out of it and all hunt together in one free for all season oh mah? Give the state 12 days for a no holds barred anything goes season?
The hypocrite point you try to make just doesn't hold water. It is a choice to hunt with a muzzy. You know the rules going into it. Adding glass optics to a muzzy would certainly increase the effective range and also harvest rates I think. It would also give the ability to increase effective range drastically over iron sights by having a much smaller aiming point and repeatable turrets.  :twocents:
thats kinda what others said in a diff. thread.kill all the game so the natives have to start over,i disagreed but sure was a few on here that thought that was a good idea.
Was Jon part of that other thread? Why does that even matter in this thread.

It is perfectly logical to be for less restrictions in some areas and for more restrictions in some other areas.  :dunno:

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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #99 on: March 25, 2017, 06:58:58 PM »
I wonder how many non muzzy hunters are voting in this poll.
Do I get to count as a muzzy hunter even though I try and fail miserably at muzzy hunting? I am positive having a scope (magnified or not) would make me have a much easier time filling muzzy tags but I am still against letting them be allowed.

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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #100 on: March 25, 2017, 06:59:22 PM »
I don't even know what's going on anymore but I can say that I'm a muzzy tag holder most years and I voted no

There are others
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #101 on: March 25, 2017, 07:09:46 PM »
I wonder how many non muzzy hunters are voting in this poll.
Do I get to count as a muzzy hunter even though I try and fail miserably at muzzy hunting? I am positive having a scope (magnified or not) would make me have a much easier time filling muzzy tags but I am still against letting them be allowed.
your op. counts so that's fine.That being said do you think hunters that try to get better dates for these hunts are also trying to improve their odds of taking game?do you think With this logic maybe we should stop rut hunting all together that improves odds as well.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #102 on: March 25, 2017, 07:13:01 PM »
Maybe no hunting close to large bodies of water,that improves odds.hunters don't like it when turkey hunters shoot turkey in air or perched so maybe no shooting turkeys unless on the ground.no glow sites on shotguns or muzzy. wow a lot of things
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #103 on: March 25, 2017, 07:15:21 PM »
why did archery guys fight for the mechanical broad heads?oh that's right better odds of bringing the animal down.is archery still primitive?more than muzzy.
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Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #104 on: March 25, 2017, 07:17:23 PM »
I wonder how many non muzzy hunters are voting in this poll.
Thats what I'm wondering, I should have said muzzy guys only.
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