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Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« on: March 24, 2017, 12:38:29 PM »
Hello Wolf Advisory Group members and Interested Parties:

 

A reminder that our next WAG meeting is scheduled for March 29-30, 2017 at the Doubletree Inn located in downtown Olympia (http://doubletree3.hilton.com/en/hotels/washington/doubletree-by-hilton-hotel-olympia-OLMCWDT/index.html).  There will be an open-house style public input period from 9:30-11:30am on March 29 prior to the WAG meeting.  The public input from that session will be passed along to WAG members during their work session later that afternoon.  The official WAG work session is from 11:45am to 5:30pm on March 29 and 7:00am to 3:00pm on March 30.  All WAG events are open to the public.

 

Please see the attached meeting agenda. 

 

Thank you,

Donny Martorello

 

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Donny Martorello, Ph.D.

Wolf Policy Lead

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife


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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2017, 05:40:16 PM »
The WAG group has proven they are a total joke.  The original plan has clearly not worked with having 17 packs out of 20 all piled up in one area of the state.  The WAG group could change the plan and get this ridiculous problem fixed but have not.  They are clearly outrageous wolf lovers that have no concern for the people being affected with this overpopulation problem.  Why would anybody want to go give public comments after so many community meetings have already taken place but the severely affected areas were not listened to.  It appears the frustrated rural folks are just dealing with it themselves cautiously but effectively.

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 02:06:39 PM »
The WAG group has proven they are a total joke.  The original plan has clearly not worked with having 17 packs out of 20 all piled up in one area of the state.  The WAG group could change the plan and get this ridiculous problem fixed but have not.  They are clearly outrageous wolf lovers that have no concern for the people being affected with this overpopulation problem.  Why would anybody want to go give public comments after so many community meetings have already taken place but the severely affected areas were not listened to.  It appears the frustrated rural folks are just dealing with it themselves cautiously but effectively.

Weilgus is requesting to speak. I'm assuming you know who Weilgus is, right @villageidiot  ?
In an email dated 3/22/17, he asked for permission to speak.
The problem is that the pro wolf crowd is showing up in force to these meetings and the rest of us aren't showing up at all. Myself included, sorry to say.
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Hi Donny and WAG.

 

I am requesting that you allow me to speak very briefly (<5 min) re: my research and observations of wolf livestock depredations at your WAG meeting next week.

 

 

 


Dr. Robert Wielgus

Associate Professor & Director

Large Carnivore Conservation Lab

School of Environment

Washington State University

Pullman, WA 99164-6410

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 02:08:23 PM »

From: Protect The Wolves <protectthewolves9765@gmail.com>
Date: March 28, 2017 at 9:59:30 AM PDT
To: "Wielgus, Robert B" <wielgus@WSU.edu>

Subject: Re: Press Release Wielgus








Good Morning Donny,

 Please provide Protect The Wolves Representative Carol Pearsall 5 minutes at the beginning of the comment period to present this Petition letter Verbally.

Thank you






Thank you Dr. Robert Wielgus for your bringing facts forward. Please be aware our Invitation that we extended to you still stands to sit on our Board of Directors. Unlike others, Protect The Wolves values their word! But we would also like to keep you in the loop. Your pointing out the Ranchers blatant disregard for known wolf den site locations should be prosecuted. We felt that it was prudent for all involved be aware that we are requesting these issues be addressed.



  This one sided Wolf Management all for the benefits of one faction needs stopped. We are adding our current Petition to terminate, relocate, rescind grazing allotments in known or newly discovered Wolf Den sites  to the USFS. The Indian Trust, as well as the Public Trust shows these Government groups how they are supposed to manage our common Trust interests, those being wildlife to some, Sacred to most all Indigenous as they relate to the Circle of Life. WDFW as well as USFS actions clearly show beyond a doubt that they are blatantly ignoring the mandates upon them as Trustees. These same Trusts tell them as well that "elected Officials" they  are required to remain 100% Transparent. This also Including Donny Martorello ignoring Washingtons Elected Officials requests to keep communication open to all involved as Senator Mark Schoesler and Representative Tom Dent Pointed out. Donny, your Program is based on Tax Dollars, the Trusts mandate that you maintain transparency.




Please Find our Petition attached showing basis for our request to rescind move or ban ( pick your applicable word) Grazing Allotments in direct conflict with known or newly discovered wolf den sites. Our basis clearly shows that past actions have resulted in mismanagement of our Trust Resources, only paying attention to special interest Ranchers.




Thank you for your Time

Protect The Wolves

Patricia Herman President

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 02:09:34 PM »
Here's the petition that the pro wolf crowd is passing around.

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 02:36:24 PM »
Here's the petition that the pro wolf crowd :pee: is passing around.
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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 03:48:02 PM »
If you look at where the people are from that signed the petition it seems like at least a third or more of them are not even from this country. Are they just getting people to blindly sign these things.
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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 04:30:43 PM »
Pardon me for being a nay sayer but attendance has zero to do with why we have a bad wolf deal. The fact is that it's about $. Pearson saying no to a wdfw fee increase is a good start.  If the bunny huggers want wolves they can pay for it out of the general fund. A big financial squeeze is gona happen, and hopefully Some one will get a clue where to spend the  $.
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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 06:19:05 PM »
I think it was Wolfbait that had it right "Washington Dept of Fish & Wolves"!
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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2017, 08:49:46 PM »
A pox on those air wasting P.O.S. They want wolves put them downtown *censored*attle, plenty of prey for them to eat, but then we will have a drug rehab for wolf program to pay for.

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2017, 07:47:21 PM »
Did we all forget this Dr. Weigus was caught lying about the rancher turning out on a wolf den.  It was more than two miles from the den but he lied to get his wolf hugger friends in an uproar.  WSU made a statement denying support for his statements.  As I remember he also made some outlandish statements a couple years ago about how killing cougars actually created more problem cougars. 
  He's clearly not very informed about wildlife but uses his position as a professor to try and convince people of his invented theories.  Why would he be given any more time at a meeting than anybody else.  In fact he's proven he's a liar so why even let him speak?   :bash: :bash:

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2017, 09:14:45 PM »
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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2017, 05:05:11 AM »
I think it was Wolfbait that had it right "Washington Dept of Fish & Wolves"!
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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2017, 07:07:35 AM »
Nothing new under the Sun!!!  If you'd been in the Methow when the Feds were going after the "irrigation users" Aka:Farmers/Ranchers, "Public meetings" with any government agency is nothing but a joke.  The agenda will always trump any common sense and Public interests and FACTS.

Public meetings are just a formality to suffice a judges ruling years ago. 

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Re: Next Wolf Advisory Group meeting 3/29-3/30
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2017, 08:48:07 AM »
Did we all forget this Dr. Weigus was caught lying about the rancher turning out on a wolf den.  It was more than two miles from the den but he lied to get his wolf hugger friends in an uproar.  WSU made a statement denying support for his statements.  As I remember he also made some outlandish statements a couple years ago about how killing cougars actually created more problem cougars. 
  He's clearly not very informed about wildlife but uses his position as a professor to try and convince people of his invented theories.  Why would he be given any more time at a meeting than anybody else.  In fact he's proven he's a liar so why even let him speak?   :bash: :bash:

He is one of WDF&Wolves surrogates just like their lawyer filled fake environmentalists on the WAG etc..

Look who supported the 15 bps wolf plan, and know that, that was where a positive change could have been made with a six bps plan. At this point any "meetings" are just political foreplay for their agenda, WDFW are just as fake as MSM, maybe worse.


 


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