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"Bear calibers"
« on: March 26, 2017, 11:10:12 AM »
What is your "Bear caliber"? I'm using my savage 110 7mm Rem mag. No bear with it yet, but hopefully I will get one this fall since I struck out on spring bear :bash:

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2017, 11:32:50 AM »
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2017, 11:40:29 AM »
300 WSM

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2017, 11:57:44 AM »
.30-06
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2017, 12:10:20 PM »
I am really hot on the 325 right now.  But the majority of my rifle kill bear have been with the 308 Win.  Wife has done well with the 257 Roberts.

One of the most successful black bear hunters I know has killed every single one of his bear with the .243 shooting 100 grain Core-Lokt from 10 yards to just shy of 400 yards.

While guiding I would cringe when I saw guys show up carrying large magnums.  Black Bear seem easy to kill with good shot placement from just about anything you would shoot a deer with.  But place the shot poorly they are one of the toughest to put down with second and third shots once the adrenalin starts pumping.  In my experience the average hunters just don't shoot the large magnums as well.  And that has led to some rather exciting blood trails and point blank follow-ups.  Shoot what you shoot best.  If that's the 7Rem you should be better than good to go!
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2017, 12:22:44 PM »
.308 or .270 WSM

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2017, 12:30:10 PM »
I bought a 300 win mag last year, expecting some long shots but never saw a deer more than 200 yards away. Being surrounded by a bunch of other young men, I bought the hornady superformance 180 grain 300 WM. When I shot my deer last year at 180 yards, I hit it in the shoulder :bash: and wasted almost all of the front shoulder. Now the 300 is just my range rifle. Too destructive for hunting

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2017, 01:33:53 PM »
That was my issue with deer and my .300 WSM
So I got a .270 WSM with 140 grain and it's the ticket

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2017, 01:46:48 PM »
That was my issue with deer and my .300 WSM
So I got a .270 WSM with 140 grain and it's the ticket

Just don't hit them in the shoulder! (Says the guy who has shot almost every animal he's ever shot through the shoulder  :chuckle:  )
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2017, 02:10:35 PM »
Ya I know! But with bear that's where you wanna hit them in my opinion, I don't like tracking them

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2017, 02:34:39 PM »
270 and a 30-06 are the two that we will be using.

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2017, 03:53:09 PM »
I prefer a 45-70, but my 9.3X62 works just as well  :)
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2017, 04:21:27 PM »
I've got a sweet 45-70 I like packing around bear country, but I wouldn't hesitate to use my 30-06, may even try out my 6.5 creedmoor, I do prefer to put em down hard though, which means 45-70 for me.

I am researching a new gun right now though, thinking a 338 win mag, but not sold just yet

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2017, 05:22:27 PM »
I've got a sweet 45-70 I like packing around bear country, but I wouldn't hesitate to use my 30-06, may even try out my 6.5 creedmoor, I do prefer to put em down hard though, which means 45-70 for me.

I am researching a new gun right now though, thinking a 338 win mag, but not sold just yet
338 Win Mag is the classic elk rifle, with the new eld bullets its got punch out to 800 yards.   I have nearly identical .300 wm and .338 win mag rifles and for some reason the 338 seems to kick less, go figure. 

If I could only have one rifle it would be the 338 wm ( synthetic stock, good pad, no brake, 4-24 scope )

For bear though anything that reaches out to 1000 yards I would be fine with. 

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2017, 05:31:11 PM »
7mm

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2017, 05:33:07 PM »
I've got a sweet 45-70 I like packing around bear country, but I wouldn't hesitate to use my 30-06, may even try out my 6.5 creedmoor, I do prefer to put em down hard though, which means 45-70 for me.

I am researching a new gun right now though, thinking a 338 win mag, but not sold just yet
338 Win Mag is the classic elk rifle, with the new eld bullets its got punch out to 800 yards.   I have nearly identical .300 wm and .338 win mag rifles and for some reason the 338 seems to kick less, go figure. 

If I could only have one rifle it would be the 338 wm ( synthetic stock, good pad, no brake, 4-24 scope )

For bear though anything that reaches out to 1000 yards I would be fine with.
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2017, 06:00:19 PM »
Mathews DXT 70# draw
or my 325 WSM
only the Mathews has had success.

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2017, 06:31:02 PM »
My last bear I killed with a 243.

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2017, 06:34:33 PM »
What is your "Bear caliber"? I'm using my savage 110 7mm Rem mag. No bear with it yet, but hopefully I will get one this fall since I struck out on spring bear :bash:
i use the 7mm rem mag also and have never had an issue.  i shoot factory 160 gr nosler partitions---they're a little spendy for a box but "silverado" prefers them... my gun is a stainless browning A-bolt with the synthetic stock and she just celebrated her 25th birthday.  as far as shot placement every bear i've shot (with the exception of 2) have been a double lunger and they've dropped like the rug was pulled out from underneath them.  one was quartering to me so i put the crosshairs at the base of his neck just in front of his forward shoulder and the bullet took out his far lung--dropped in his tracks.  another was quartering away from me and i hit him low in the heart and the bullet came out forward of his front off leg...he started jumping up and down like a frog and before i could rack another round in he was dead within 20 yards from where i shot him.  luckily so far i've never had to track a black bear.  my shot ranges have been as close as 25 yards over bait (when it was legal) to upwards of 300 yards.  .
good luck with the bear hunting as they are my favorite game to hunt

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2017, 10:29:17 AM »
Currently a 30-06 with 185 gr Berger bullets, but I got my eye on a 338 win mag (too much?)

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2017, 10:48:31 AM »
Ya I know! But with bear that's where you wanna hit them in my opinion, I don't like tracking them

Oh you're 100% right. A double shoulder shot should anchor them most of the time regardless of the caliber, as long as you have a quality bullet.
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2017, 11:28:28 AM »
To me, I think the 338 is a bit much unless you hunt at longer ranges. I hunt the thick 113 and 105 units for bear. Sure you see them far away, but usually when I see them they are 100 yards or less. I feel like a 338 would certainly end up with a dead bear :chuckle: however most likely end up with alot of tissue destruction. Even a 30-06 up close is pretty nasty! I can't imagine the exit hole of a 338 :twocents:

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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2017, 11:29:27 AM »
I prefer a 45-70, but my 9.3X62 works just as well  :)

Me too

Shoot through w/the Hornady 350 RN was a concern though.  That bullet would carry all the way from the front shoulder out the rear ham.  But when I used to do a lot of bear hunting I really liked the Marlin 1895 SS. 
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2017, 11:49:30 AM »
I hit it in the shoulder :bash: and wasted almost all of the front shoulder. Now the 300 is just my range rifle. Too destructive for hunting

That is not the caliber as much as round placement.

I have never had excessive amounts of waste shooting a 300 WM or a 7MM.
I have also seen horrific waste from a .243 hit to the shoulder or ribs.
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Re: "Bear calibers"
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2017, 02:34:29 PM »
It's hit or miss really. My younger brother shot his mule deer with a 243. Using 95 grain Federal fusions went thru both shoulders and out the far side. Dropped in its tracks and only about 6oz of bloodshot meat. I've heard the SST doesnt hold together very well. Maybe that was the issue.