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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2017, 01:24:04 PM »
This topic has always bothered me.  I hope somebody with more time and knowledge will fill in the blanks.

Here is the main problem: WDFW already gives out substantial depredation tags to timber companies, which allow the killing of bears during the spring season.  These bears are indeed damaging trees, and the timber companies hire professional hunters to kill bears---but the harvest of said bears (meat, fur) is NOT allowed.  They drop them where they see them.  And, to make it more interesting, baiting and running of dogs is sometimes allowed.  Unfortunately for the sportsman hunter, we cannot participate in this harvest.  Our only hope is to pull a limited entry spring tag, and then often pay the timber company for the opportunity to trespass and hunt their property.

Could somebody research the number of bears killed every year by professional hunters on timber property, licensed by WDFW with depredation tags?  I saw numbers years ago, and it was much higher than the number of spring bears killed by sportsmen.

This is another area where the WDFW could benefit hunters by putting pressure on the timber companies to allow licensed hunters to take their bears. What a waste it is now.
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2017, 01:28:51 PM »
We had some talk in the northeast of trying an early over the counter hunt but it never happened. I think they could start with an early 2 week to 4 week season statewide to test the water and then add a week each year until we eventually have the full spring open. By doing it that way there would be very modest harvest the first year and they could tweak the season each year based on harvest numbers.
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2017, 01:30:08 PM »
Bearpaw for Director.
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2017, 01:34:40 PM »
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I doubt they would like my wolf policy!  : :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2017, 01:44:42 PM »
Bearpaw for Director.

I doubt they would like my wolf policy!  : :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2017, 01:50:41 PM »
I recently read that WA has the most bears of any state in the lower 48.  How come we don't have any general Spring bear seasons?  You'd think that with no bait and no hounds it wouldn't be a huge impact on the population - we already support a 3 month general season and most of that time bears are easier to find in the open snacking on berries.  It could still be limited to 2 a year, limited to units with sustainable population etc...  any thoughts?  The current draws are pretty undesirable for westsiders.

There is no good reason to not have OTC spring bear.  Take the NE corner for example.  In Idaho you can hunt them OTC from April 15-June 15.  GMU 113 borders Idaho, and there isn't any spring bear season at all.  Draw or otherwise.  The reason WDFW gives is Grizzly habitat, so for those of you that favor Grizzlies please realize that they will only be used to further limit hunting.  WA has their head so far in the sand on predators they are absolutely beyond belief.  We are in a predator pit, and are rapidly heading towards the end of OTC hunting opportunities.   :bdid:

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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2017, 01:53:58 PM »
Bearpaw for Director.

I doubt they would like my wolf policy!  : :chuckle:
All the better! I second bearpaw for director!!!

I would get fired for demanding scientific management for robust populations of all species and maximizing recreational opportunities rather than pandering to antis and wolf groups.  :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2017, 01:56:32 PM »
I would get fired for demanding scientific management for robust populations of all GAME species and maximizing recreational opportunities rather than pandering to antis and wolf groups.  :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2017, 01:58:53 PM »
I would get fired for demanding scientific management for robust populations of all GAME species and maximizing recreational opportunities rather than pandering to antis and wolf groups.  :chuckle:
;)

See, I already used a forbidden word!  :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2017, 02:02:47 PM »
Bearpaw for Director.

I doubt they would like my wolf policy!  : :chuckle:

Ha! Imagine that - a scientific, wildlife management-based wolf policy. No tears, no dreadlocks. Oh, the humanity!  :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2017, 02:24:12 PM »
I would get fired for demanding scientific management for robust populations of all GAME species and maximizing recreational opportunities rather than pandering to antis and wolf groups.  :chuckle:
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See, I already used a forbidden word!  :chuckle:
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Re: Why no WA general spring bear season?
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2017, 02:32:46 PM »
Besides Dale, you know as soon as you became director we'd all turn on you!
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