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Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« on: April 05, 2017, 03:20:12 PM »
I'm not sure if this is legal or not. But I want to scout deer on some public land but I'm afraid of bears and cougars. I know I shouldn't be afraid of them but I would just feel way more comfortable carrying a shotgun with some slugs while I scout. I'm only 20 and don't have a pistol yet and I can't borrow anybody else's so I'm left with a .22 or a shotgun. If I got stopped by a warden would i get busted for carrying a shotgun when it's not hunting season?

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2017, 03:34:16 PM »
Perfectly legal.
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2017, 03:42:58 PM »
Definitely no law against carrying a firearm for personal protection, or for any reason, really. You don't need a reason, the 2nd amendment to the constitution gives you the right to do so.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2017, 03:49:24 PM »
Not only is it perfectly legal but buy your hunting license as it is hunting season, coyotes are legal 365 days a year and you might run across one  :tup:
To hunt and butcher an animal is to recognize that meat is not some abstract form of protein that springs into existence tightly wrapped in cellophane and styrofoam.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 04:53:57 PM »
It is completely legal as you aren't doing anything considered hunting for a specie not legal at that time or place. Just walking in the woods scouting you should be fine.
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2017, 06:20:18 PM »
You can even take your hunting rifle with you if you want. Everyone is allowed to walk in the woods with a gun. Heck you can carry a pistol if you like.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 07:13:03 PM »
When I was in high school I got a ticket for hunting without a license because I let a game warden convince me that I was doing something wrong when I wasn't. Was in the woods with a gun in my truck but I was not hunting. Knowing your rights and being confident in what you're legally allowed to do is a great first step to keep from getting a bs citation like I did back then.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 09:51:17 PM »
Don't practice rattling antlers while out there.  :tup:

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 10:00:03 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so.


So by defined ,scouting may be a part of hunting,even  though your not killing them.Just say your hiking and brought it for self defense.or maybe some target practice after your hike.

There's always two different ways to skin a cat.
Just have to use the right words change scouting to hiking to be sure not to get a ticket.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2017, 10:04:40 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so.


So by defined ,scouting may be a part of hunting,even  though your not killing them.Just say your hiking and brought it for self defense.or maybe some target practice after your hike.

There's always two different ways to skin a cat.
Just have to use the right words change scouting to hiking to be sure not to get a ticket.
Scouting is not hunting.

"To hunt" and its derivatives means an effort to kill, injure, harass, harvest, or capture a wild animal or wild bird.
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 10:09:48 PM »
When you scout you are pursuing,or tracking animals that is clear,and part of hunting as definition.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2017, 10:10:02 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so.


So by defined ,scouting may be a part of hunting,even  though your not killing them.Just say your hiking and brought it for self defense.or maybe some target practice after your hike.

There's always two different ways to skin a cat.
Just have to use the right words change scouting to hiking to be sure not to get a ticket.
Scouting is not hunting.

"To hunt" and its derivatives means an effort to kill, injure, harass, harvest, or capture a wild animal or wild bird.
:yeah: Straight from the regs...
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 10:10:35 PM »
When you scout you are pursuing,or tracking animals that is clear,and part of hunting as definition.
Not the WDFW definition.
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2017, 10:13:37 PM »
What do you think harass wild animal means.
Pursuing or tracking may be harassing .

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 10:15:42 PM »
What do you think harass wild animal means.
I think it means harassing them. Scouting (looking) for deer isn't harassment, unless the deer in your area are a bunch of snowflakes.  :twocents:
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2017, 10:20:10 PM »
I'm just trying to save someone money by not getting a ticket, we should email wdfw for response to this law just to find the truth ,but to save your self from being harassed by wdfw ,i would use the word hikeing or just get tags and be coyote hunting.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2017, 10:22:10 PM »
I will agree with ya on one thing wdfw are snowflakes on these petty laws sometimes. :twocents:

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2017, 10:26:51 PM »
You don't need an excuse to carry a gun while walking around. Tell them nothing. The less info the better :tup:
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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2017, 10:28:33 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so. Hunting wildlife or feral animals is most commonly done by humans for food, recreation, to remove predators that are dangerous to humans or domestic animals, or for trade. Lawful hunting is distinguished from poaching, which is the illegal killing, trapping or capture of the hunted species. The species that are hunted are referred to as game or prey and are usually mammals and birds.


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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2017, 10:33:14 PM »
You don't need an excuse to carry a gun while walking around. Tell them nothing. The less info the better :tup:

Then there gonna assume your hunting,and charge you with a lot more laws being not followed.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2017, 10:37:18 PM »
Never talk beyond need.  If stopped answer who you are and provide ID. They have to have probable cause and then evidence. Being armed in the woods is not a crime. I wouldnt get in the weeds about my purpose, i'm armed because its my right. Dont answer any other leading questions about what you might, or might not, have been looking for. Their questions are never designed to help you. Look up the youtube video of a well known defense aty called never talk to cops.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2017, 10:37:58 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so. Hunting wildlife or feral animals is most commonly done by humans for food, recreation, to remove predators that are dangerous to humans or domestic animals, or for trade. Lawful hunting is distinguished from poaching, which is the illegal killing, trapping or capture of the hunted species. The species that are hunted are referred to as game or prey and are usually mammals and birds.
Wikipedia isn't a legal definition.

Your fine with carrying a shotgun in the woods.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2017, 10:54:53 PM »
Now you all are saying not to talk more then need to and all this,the answer to the question is unclear, Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??.Can you legally scout deer without a hunting license and have a firearm.


Never talk beyond need.  If stopped answer who you are and provide ID. They have to have probable cause and then evidence. Being armed in the woods is not a crime. I wouldnt get in the weeds about my purpose, i'm armed because its my right. Dont answer any other leading questions about what you might, or might not, have been looking for. Their questions are never designed to help you. Look up the youtube video of a well known defense aty called never talk to cops.

Legal should mean that you can talk to cop without trouble or cause for tickets,charges,or arrest.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2017, 10:57:19 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so. Hunting wildlife or feral animals is most commonly done by humans for food, recreation, to remove predators that are dangerous to humans or domestic animals, or for trade. Lawful hunting is distinguished from poaching, which is the illegal killing, trapping or capture of the hunted species. The species that are hunted are referred to as game or prey and are usually mammals and birds.
Wikipedia isn't a legal definition.

Your fine with carrying a shotgun in the woods.

Then I would like to hear your definition , and your source of where you came up with it.

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Re: Scouting deer while carrying a shotgun??
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2017, 11:02:48 PM »
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping animals, or pursuing or tracking them with the intent of doing so. Hunting wildlife or feral animals is most commonly done by humans for food, recreation, to remove predators that are dangerous to humans or domestic animals, or for trade. Lawful hunting is distinguished from poaching, which is the illegal killing, trapping or capture of the hunted species. The species that are hunted are referred to as game or prey and are usually mammals and birds.
Wikipedia isn't a legal definition.

Your fine with carrying a shotgun in the woods.
Then I would like to hear your definition , and your source of where you came up with it.
Several decades in law enforcement enforcing fishing and hunting laws.