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Just got to thinking... why?
« on: April 07, 2017, 10:14:44 AM »
Why do modern firearm bull permit holders get 14 days afield in most of the eastern draw permits for elk while archery bull permit holders only get 13 days?

My proposal give archery branch antlered permit holders an extra 5 days just like they do for modern firearm.

Thoughts?


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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 10:45:48 AM »
There is significantly more rifle hunters than archery hunters. The "cash cow" needs to be as happy as possible. Archery gets first crack, a plenty long season and rut timing. Doesn't seem so bad to me?  :dunno:
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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 02:53:49 PM »
1 day less than someone carrying a boom stick isn't my definition of plenty long.  I can't argue with first crack.

I remain steadfast in my belief that archery is harder even with the month difference in time.


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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 03:23:04 PM »
I am predominantly a muzzleloader hunter. It was archers who complained during the last season setting process that ML hunters got days to hunt quality tags before the general season and archers did not. So instead of getting your extra days, you got the ML guys extra days before the season taken away. Thanks guys!  >:( Beyond that, archery is the fastest growing user group with rapidly advancing technology every year. The "hard way" is getting easier every year. You chose the "hard way." Why do archers feel that they deserve more than other groups? I'll trade you ML season for your archery season any time you like. I own a bow, ML, and rifles.  I happily hunt with them all. In fact, I'll be archery elk hunting this season because I am unhappy with the dates that ML gets for this year. A short 6 day season bumping up to opening weekend of modern firearm deer season. No thanks!
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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 07:55:47 PM »
All user groups have seen technology increases.  I am not saying increase the general archery season just for the quality permits.  Look at the success rates for archery quality permits.  It is still much harder by that stat.


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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2017, 08:00:29 PM »
you might want to hunt archery and see how easy it is... NOT newer technology may increase accuracy but hasn't changed shooting distance.you still need to get as close as you did ten years ago.

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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2017, 08:01:36 PM »
Why do modern firearm bull permit holders get 14 days afield in most of the eastern draw permits for elk while archery bull permit holders only get 13 days?

My proposal give archery branch antlered permit holders an extra 5 days just like they do for modern firearm.

Thoughts?


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So where would these 5 days come from?  What group will sacrifice part of their season.

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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2017, 08:02:39 PM »
There's a lot more people and competition in the woods during rifle season :dunno:

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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2017, 08:03:11 PM »
Why do modern firearm bull permit holders get 14 days afield in most of the eastern draw permits for elk while archery bull permit holders only get 13 days?

My proposal give archery branch antlered permit holders an extra 5 days just like they do for modern firearm.

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So where would these 5 days come from?  What group will sacrifice part of their season.

Open Archery season 5 days earlier?

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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2017, 08:10:55 PM »
Didn't the archery hunters just push for a later start last year?  :dunno:
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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2017, 08:12:13 PM »
The modern bull permits may get 14 days but they only get 5 days to hunt before the general season starts and thousands of modern firearm hunters hit the woods.

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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2017, 08:41:57 PM »
Why do modern firearm bull permit holders get 14 days afield in most of the eastern draw permits for elk while archery bull permit holders only get 13 days?

My proposal give archery branch antlered permit holders an extra 5 days just like they do for modern firearm.

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So where would these 5 days come from?  What group will sacrifice part of their season.

Open Archery season 5 days earlier?
Yes.  For the permit holders.  The calendar has the room.

Someone how they managed to fit a 5 day rut hunt in at the end of September for modern firearm too.


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Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2017, 08:42:55 PM »
The modern bull permits may get 14 days but they only get 5 days to hunt before the general season starts and thousands of modern firearm hunters hit the woods.
And archery permit hunters get zero days before all the archery hunters and multiseason permit holders hit the woods.


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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2017, 08:59:08 PM »
Switch weapons and you'll be fine. You can draw a tag every 10-15 years versus every 5 years for that one extra day to hunt.

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Re: Just got to thinking... why?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2017, 11:42:13 PM »
Point creep is alive and well for archery too.  Took 9 years beginning in 2003 to draw 1st time around.  This will be the 5th year hoping for another chance.


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