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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2017, 06:34:10 PM »

As for the ridgeline. While they may be rated well in tests for this and that on new models, we work on plenty of earlier ridgelines and I can tell you they are garbage. Crap parts, butt ugly and if there's one thing honda can't ever get right it's a automatic transmission. Not to mention these "heavy duty" station wagons don't have actual frames and utilize a unibody instead, try dragging that over uneven obstacles. I've seen nothing in any of the newer Hondas to believe they've made significant changes to remedy similar problems in the future models

Apparently you did not read the reviews of the 2017 Midsized trucks very well. Have you driven a 2017 Ridgeline?
The Tacoma was also beaten by the Colorado and the Canyon. Actually you should be glad the other trucks have caught up with and past the Tacomas at least in initial quality. That can only lead to better and cheaper Tacomas. Competition is a good thing.
As for unibodies, I drove my unibody Jeep Cherokee LTD from Auburn Washington all the way to Moab Utah, wheeled for a week, then drove home, in comfort.
Tacomas are good trucks and for years there were only two mid-sized trucks to choose from the Tacoma and the Frontier. Now there are a few options that could fit the many different ways people use their trucks.

FYI Cars.com gives the Ridgeline 5 stars (out of 5) for customer Satisfaction and Reliability from 2008 - 2017,

The crazy fanboism does nothing for making a case.

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2017, 07:00:23 PM »
Hondas look like a, "push me pull me". Most of you probably have no idea what that is. Lol
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2017, 07:24:03 PM »
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FYI Cars.com gives the Ridgeline 5 stars (out of 5) for customer Satisfaction and Reliability from 2008 - 2017

I have no doubt that the Ridgeline is a good car.

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2017, 07:43:49 PM »
I just hope with all the competition, they can get some decent V6 power with MPGs in the high 20s.
Sucks to have a V6 and get less then 18 MPGs. My Ram got 15-16 on a good day.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2017, 12:45:59 PM »
My two Taco's were both TRD Off Road Pre-runners. in about 300K miles on them combined they never saw over 19mpg on the best day driving like a saint. Most of the time average gravel/country road driving mixed with open interstate they got about 16-17mpg. Pull a small boat or the Casita and it would drop to 12-14mpg.

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2017, 12:54:06 PM »
My two Taco's were both TRD Off Road Pre-runners. in about 300K miles on them combined they never saw over 19mpg on the best day driving like a saint. Most of the time average gravel/country road driving mixed with open interstate they got about 16-17mpg. Pull a small boat or the Casita and it would drop to 12-14mpg.
so your the guy!! I've always wondered who bought the prerunners. My life dictates the need for 4x4, I see the prerunners out and bout a lot though.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2017, 02:08:10 PM »
I heard the ridgelines have a shut off if you are going up any serious grade. Something about keeping the oil from dripping out?
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2017, 02:39:48 PM »
Ridgelines are a car, they aren't meant to go AWD'n around in 4x4 country.



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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2017, 12:14:47 AM »
My two Taco's were both TRD Off Road Pre-runners. in about 300K miles on them combined they never saw over 19mpg on the best day driving like a saint. Most of the time average gravel/country road driving mixed with open interstate they got about 16-17mpg. Pull a small boat or the Casita and it would drop to 12-14mpg.
so your the guy!! I've always wondered who bought the prerunners. My life dictates the need for 4x4, I see the prerunners out and bout a lot though.

Owner of the company dictates the purchases. Excellent choice. I put miles on gravel, construction sites, driving to remote mine sites all over the western US. Never got stuck once. Diesel trucks bury in nose heavy as hell. Yes, every diesel in our fleet was 4x4. Because diesels get stuck twice as easy due to weight distribution.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2017, 12:45:59 AM »

As for the ridgeline. While they may be rated well in tests for this and that on new models, we work on plenty of earlier ridgelines and I can tell you they are garbage. Crap parts, butt ugly and if there's one thing honda can't ever get right it's a automatic transmission. Not to mention these "heavy duty" station wagons don't have actual frames and utilize a unibody instead, try dragging that over uneven obstacles. I've seen nothing in any of the newer Hondas to believe they've made significant changes to remedy similar problems in the future models

Apparently you did not read the reviews of the 2017 Midsized trucks very well. Have you driven a 2017 Ridgeline?
The Tacoma was also beaten by the Colorado and the Canyon. Actually you should be glad the other trucks have caught up with and past the Tacomas at least in initial quality. That can only lead to better and cheaper Tacomas. Competition is a good thing.
As for unibodies, I drove my unibody Jeep Cherokee LTD from Auburn Washington all the way to Moab Utah, wheeled for a week, then drove home, in comfort.
Tacomas are good trucks and for years there were only two mid-sized trucks to choose from the Tacoma and the Frontier. Now there are a few options that could fit the many different ways people use their trucks.

FYI Cars.com gives the Ridgeline 5 stars (out of 5) for customer Satisfaction and Reliability from 2008 - 2017,

The crazy fanboism does nothing for making a case.

Have you personally worked any Hondas yourself? Let alone ridgelines? I've worked on Hondas and toyotas both for a living for quite a few years now. And regardless of fanboism or car reviews ratings I can tell you that just because you read it was the best doesn't mean much. I have felt new and old ridglines, as well as new and old tacomas. I drive a 2000 tacoma with 320k sitting on the odometer. Would I think my tacoma rides better than a new ridgeline? Of course not without a doubt it probably rides a million times better. Almost any new truck rides pretty dang nice compared to old tin cans.

The ridgeline may not be my cup of tea or anyone elses. But if it floats some people's boats that's great, I'll consider it job security. Every man has his choice of truck but there are undoubtedly reasons why there is no hype over a ridgeline, no praise of honda for its truck or why they don't resale near as well.

All apples look good fresh on the tree, but not all apples have a shelf life, value and flavor as others do. With all the new mid size competition, I'm not interested in how they stack up now, I'm more interested in how the 2017s stack up 5 years from now with each other when warranties are over and components begin to wear.

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2017, 09:58:19 AM »
All apples look good fresh on the tree, but not all apples have a shelf life, value and flavor as others do. With all the new mid size competition, I'm not interested in how they stack up now, I'm more interested in how the 2017s stack up 5 years from now with each other when warranties are over and components begin to wear.

That is why I posted the last 10 years of reliability and satisfaction reports.
Funny every source I have read rates them extremely high in reliability.

Edmonds
Cars.com
Every car magazine rates  them very high for reliability and customer satisfaction.

The same places that give the Tacoma great resale value.
Give credit where it is due.

The only fanboism played out here is from the Tacoma crowd.

I have never owned either, LOL

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2017, 02:52:07 PM »
The owner of my last employer had a ridgeline for a salesmans driver. It didn't go to the shop often. I do know two of the five tacomas had rear ends replaced.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2017, 02:56:32 PM »
Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2017, 06:01:34 PM »
Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.

My 2007 Dakota wallowed  like a fat lady on a water bed, until I replaced the ball joints and end links.
Feels like a totally different truck now.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2017, 08:03:08 PM »
Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.

My 2007 Dakota wallowed  like a fat lady on a water bed, until I replaced the ball joints and end links.
Feels like a totally different truck now.
A dodge with front end problems? You don't hear that every day.
Oh wait. Yes you do.

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2017, 08:25:05 PM »
Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.

My 2007 Dakota wallowed  like a fat lady on a water bed, until I replaced the ball joints and end links.
Feels like a totally different truck now.
A dodge with front end problems? You don't hear that every day.
Oh wait. Yes you do.

The people who designed the linkage in the Dakota front end should be tarred and feathered.
What a horrible design.

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2017, 07:40:01 AM »
Aren't they all already at the scrap yard? Lol.
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2017, 07:56:01 AM »
I have a 03 4wd s-10 with 177k miles and I really like it. The seating position is really comfortable. You sit "in it" rather then on top of it, if you understand what I mean. It drives nice, good vision. Also,... and this is just me and I realize I'm probably in the minority but... but I like having a tailgate that is low enough that I can take one step and climb in the back. I can load heavy things in the back easier too and I can reach over the siderails and grab stuff. How guys live(work) with lifted rigs is beyond me. And in all honesty, I use the 4wd on desert/mountain roads, muddy farm roads/snow/ice and I never find myself in a situation where I need extra clearance. I can weave around/over stuff and not ever scrape the bottom.

But its had some bugaboos...

-The door bushings are junk. When they wear out, air comes whistling in the cab and its very noisy  I changed them multiple times before going to Tacoma Screw and finding some heavy duty bushings, machining them a bit then rigging my own custom door hinge.

-Replaced driver side power window motor TWICE, passenger side once.

-In tank fuel pump went out at about 90k, left me stranded at the convience store

-Had to change radiator at 110k when it became clogged with the clay thats in dexcool

-Vacuum lines engage 4wd and ac vents. Vac lines originate off valve at top of tranny, when valve goes bad it lets tranny fluid into lines messing up ac/vent/defrost actuators.

-Intake gasket leaked for a LONG time. I finally changed it at 165k before things got deadly

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2017, 10:59:27 AM »
Aren't they all already at the scrap yard? Lol.

This one has 140k miles on this 2007 SLT 4x4. 
I have replaced the brakes, front end as I said and tires.
Besides that, it has been a good truck for how much I put it to work.
The body and paint is in great condition.
3.7 is a dog getting up to 60 MPH but cruses well at 75 with low RPMs.
Mileage is your typical V6 suckage, usually at 16 MPG.
Functional, practical, without being hideous, LOL
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2017, 02:08:35 PM »
Aren't they all already at the scrap yard? Lol.

This one has 140k miles on this 2007 SLT 4x4. 
I have replaced the brakes, front end as I said and tires.
Besides that, it has been a good truck for how much I put it to work.
The body and paint is in great condition.
3.7 is a dog getting up to 60 MPH but cruses well at 75 with low RPMs.
Mileage is your typical V6 suckage, usually at 16 MPG.
Functional, practical, without being hideous, LOL

I was just kidding. I cant tell you how bad I wanted a convertible 4x4 Dakota when they first came out.. hahahaa
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2017, 08:22:33 AM »
'91, '94, '99, '02, '07, '13, '15 and now '17.    Hard to go away from the Toyota pickups!

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2017, 09:08:25 AM »
'91, '94, '99, '02, '07, '13, '15 and now '17.    Hard to go away from the Toyota pickups!
i'm like you but with less truck ADD! haha
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #72 on: April 21, 2017, 08:07:51 PM »
'91, '94, '99, '02, '07, '13, '15 and now '17.    Hard to go away from the Toyota pickups!

Nice looking truck!
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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2017, 08:01:48 PM »
'13


'15


'17


If they had the bottom end power of the 4.0, top end of the 3.5... would be a great combo!




Had the '13, averaged 19mpg, had an engine pinging issue for some reason, then got rid of it due to moving to Germany. Got back, bought the '15, no engine pinging, averaged nearly 21mpg with it with the same driving habits! The '17 is averaging 21mpg, but my usual commute has a lot of 50mph driving. Deployed, got back, upgraded... Good thing I get my Tacoma's for so much off! The least I got off was $3600 on the '13 (with $500 off for military) and got the '17 for $4550 off (another $500 off for military).

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Re: gmc canyon vs Toyota Tacoma
« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2017, 10:35:05 AM »
Looks good in grey!
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