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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 06:51:14 AM »
anyone notice the extreme drop in cow tags?  odds will be worse than bull tags.

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 07:40:01 AM »
Thanks for the heads up!

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 08:48:08 AM »
anyone notice the extreme drop in cow tags?  odds will be worse than bull tags.

There is no rhyme or reason for WDFW dropping the amount of cow tags for many of the eastern units from 100 or 200 etc to 10. Watch, when the amount of special permit cow applicants drops to half or a third the amount of previous years the amount of special permits will be back up to what they were in 2016. It's all about the $$$$. When they lose money they'll change it back. Just my opinion. To go from 100 or 200 permits to 10 is drastic.

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2017, 11:11:29 AM »
anyone notice the extreme drop in cow tags?  odds will be worse than bull tags.
:tup: best news I've seen in a long time, about time!

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 11:41:12 AM »
anyone notice the extreme drop in cow tags?  odds will be worse than bull tags.

There is no rhyme or reason for WDFW dropping the amount of cow tags for many of the eastern units from 100 or 200 etc to 10. Watch, when the amount of special permit cow applicants drops to half or a third the amount of previous years the amount of special permits will be back up to what they were in 2016. It's all about the $$$$. When they lose money they'll change it back. Just my opinion. To go from 100 or 200 permits to 10 is drastic.
I'd be willing to bet the number of applicants won't drop very much.  :twocents:
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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2017, 11:44:25 AM »
anyone notice the extreme drop in cow tags?  odds will be worse than bull tags.

There is no rhyme or reason for WDFW dropping the amount of cow tags for many of the eastern units from 100 or 200 etc to 10. Watch, when the amount of special permit cow applicants drops to half or a third the amount of previous years the amount of special permits will be back up to what they were in 2016. It's all about the $$$$. When they lose money they'll change it back. Just my opinion. To go from 100 or 200 permits to 10 is drastic.
I'd be willing to bet the number of applicants won't drop very much.  :twocents:

Agreed.  Everyone would just pay the $6 for a point anyway, might as well put your name in the hat for one of the tags.

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 11:55:52 AM »
I'd be willing to bet the number of applicants won't drop very much.  :twocents:

Agreed.  Everyone would just pay the $6 for a point anyway, might as well put your name in the hat for one of the tags.

I will do that same.  I was hoping it was a typo...I don't remember a time the cow tags were this low, especially in the 340 unit where we usually hunt.  The winter couldn't have been that hard on them and everything I've heard and experienced, the cow hunters didn't slaughter them last year.

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 12:26:52 PM »
I'm glad to seen the numbers of cow tags where they are :tup: something needed done
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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2017, 12:50:54 PM »
If they are that concerned about cows wouldn't they limit the archery guys as well?

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2017, 12:57:08 PM »
If they are that concerned about cows wouldn't they limit the archery guys as well?

Good point. The archery hunters take a lot of cows during the general season. No permit required. Seems odd to cut modern firearm permits as drastically as they did, and still allow unlimited cow harvest during the general archery seasons.

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2017, 01:07:28 PM »
If they are that concerned about cows wouldn't they limit the archery guys as well?

Good point. The archery hunters take a lot of cows during the general season. No permit required. Seems odd to cut modern firearm permits as drastically as they did, and still allow unlimited cow harvest during the general archery seasons.
In 2015 general seasons, archery hunters reported killing 572 antlerless elk in District 8 which includes GMUs 328-371.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2015/reports/elk_gmu.php?District=8



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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2017, 01:12:40 PM »
anyone notice the extreme drop in cow tags?  odds will be worse than bull tags.
If they are that concerned about cows wouldn't they limit the archery guys as well?

Good point. The archery hunters take a lot of cows during the general season. No permit required. Seems odd to cut modern firearm permits as drastically as they did, and still allow unlimited cow harvest during the general archery seasons.
In 2015 general seasons, archery hunters reported killing 572 antlerless elk in District 8 which includes GMUs 328-371.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2015/reports/elk_gmu.php?District=8





I believe that two years ago they drastically increased the number of cow tags for MF hunters in those units.  The reason was the herds were above objectives and the bull to cow ratio was out of order.  They increased them to lower the number of elk.  They gave out a ton of MF tags because they have the highest success in taking game.

Now that the herds are closer to objective levels they have reduced the number of cow tags given to MF hunters and gone back to the standard equation that they use for resource allocation.
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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2017, 01:23:36 PM »
Based on those statistics archers killed twice as many cows compared to modern  and muzzleloaders combined. I have nothing against archery I just feel if they want to reduce opportunity to harvest cows it should be done in all user gcoups.

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Re: Washington Regs have been posted
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2017, 02:01:36 PM »
Based on those statistics archers killed twice as many cows compared to modern  and muzzleloaders combined. I have nothing against archery I just feel if they want to reduce opportunity to harvest cows it should be done in all user gcoups.

 :yeah: I totally agree with you. I have nothing against archery either, but it makes me sick that they allow them to shoot a antlerless cow without a permit quota in place. I think what many are saying its harder for archery to kill an elk. But the above stats prove that wrong and the fact that technology has evolved over time (ie trail cams) :twocents:

 

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