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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #100 on: May 19, 2017, 01:18:52 PM »
I told ya, .338.


Yeah .338 is great but heavy. I like my .300 win mag all around, drops them dead no issues.

I have a Colt Sauer .375 H&H that was given to me years ago by my grandfather, never shot it. Its too damn nice of a gun.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #101 on: May 19, 2017, 01:40:03 PM »
Here is what a writer for F&S had to say about elk rifles:

http://www.fieldandstream.com/12-best-rifle-cartridges-for-elk-hunting

12.) 6.5 Creed
11.) .270 Win
10.) 280 AI
9.) 7mm Rem Mag
8.) 28 Nosler
7.) 30-06
6.) 300 WSM
5.) 300 Win Mag
4.) 300 Weatherby
3.) 30 Nosler
2.) 338 RCM
1.) 338 WM


Looks like the author is part of the bigger is better crowd.  Typical. 

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #102 on: May 19, 2017, 02:05:30 PM »
.300 WM is a great second choice.
Grampa would love to look down and see you shoot at least one bull with that .375.
Guns are made to be used, not looked at.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #103 on: May 19, 2017, 02:53:37 PM »
Here is what a writer for F&S had to say about elk rifles:

http://www.fieldandstream.com/12-best-rifle-cartridges-for-elk-hunting

12.) 6.5 Creed
11.) .270 Win
10.) 280 AI
9.) 7mm Rem Mag
8.) 28 Nosler
7.) 30-06
6.) 300 WSM
5.) 300 Win Mag
4.) 300 Weatherby
3.) 30 Nosler
2.) 338 RCM
1.) 338 WM


Looks like the author is part of the bigger is better crowd.  Typical.

I cancelled most magazine subscriptions back in the late 1980's and early 1990's for just this reason. 

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #104 on: May 19, 2017, 03:00:40 PM »
Well almost no one uses #2 and #3 on that list but other than that its close to the order I would put them but I'm used to areas where elk going an extra 50 feet means another 1/2 day pack outa the canyon but I would drop the 30-06 below 7mm mag.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #105 on: May 19, 2017, 03:34:28 PM »
While I prefer the 7mm Rem. Mag, Jack O'Connor http://www.jack-oconnor.org seemed to do "okay" with a .270. :chuckle:
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #106 on: May 19, 2017, 04:12:34 PM »
Jack O'Conner hunted primarily with a guide chasing undisturbed elk.
He also emphasized shot placement.
I agree that under those conditions the .270 is adequate.

The problem I see is during less than ideal conditions.
I generally get 1 opportunity to shoot an elk during a season.
You take the shot your presented NOW!!
I do not have the luxury that Jack had to wait for the perfect setup.
He could be fairly certain that he would have another opportunity, I do not.

If I have to take a Texas Heart Shot, I NEED penetration.
I want that exit hole to leak like crazy if the elk is spooked and still moving.
We have all shot elk that died real quick, but believe me, the time will come when one will travel, even mortally wounded.
A good blood trail is always nice.

Whatever you choose, be sure you don't error on the side of being under gunned.
With my .338 I don't worry about it.
The same applies to my 7MM Mag, but the .338 gives me a little more confidence.





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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #107 on: May 19, 2017, 04:19:55 PM »
You sound nervous...  you should probably start hunting with a .50 bmg just in case.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #108 on: May 19, 2017, 04:38:24 PM »
I do sound nervous ,but it's just conviction.
Hopefully I have not talked myself into buying a new rifle.
Miles, thanks for the reality check.
I am saving up to pay for a drop camp in Montana for Deer/Elk.


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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2017, 05:31:35 PM »
if your going to Montana you better go ahead and get that .416 Rigby,the elk there wont drop with anything less.  :chuckle:
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #110 on: May 19, 2017, 05:38:49 PM »
We got it covered.
.338 for me with the 7mm RM as a back up.
My kid shoots a .280.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #111 on: May 19, 2017, 06:25:48 PM »
I hear with those big magnums you just need to shoot in that general area and the elk will drop  :chuckle:

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #112 on: May 19, 2017, 06:28:10 PM »
yes they use the term percussion.with a magnum close enough is just like horse shoes and hand grenades.2-3 feet high or low works anyways.  :tup:
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #113 on: May 19, 2017, 09:47:38 PM »
7mm-08 for me. 

I am definitely not in the bigger-is-better camp.  I'm in the cheap, high-quality, good ballistics, and I'm-not-a-good-enough-shooter-to-shoot-farther-than-400-yards-anyway-so-what-the-hell-do-I-need-a-magnum-for crowd. 

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #114 on: May 19, 2017, 10:55:50 PM »
Putting a 30-06 above a 7mm RM on a elk killer list is just plain wrong and no 308 win. yet a 6.5 creed has me scratching my head of course I do consider Field and Stream a joke of a magazine.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #115 on: May 19, 2017, 11:13:33 PM »
7mm-08 for me. 

I am definitely not in the bigger-is-better camp.  I'm in the cheap, high-quality, good ballistics, and I'm-not-a-good-enough-shooter-to-shoot-farther-than-400-yards-anyway-so-what-the-hell-do-I-need-a-magnum-for crowd.
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #116 on: May 19, 2017, 11:26:13 PM »
I hear with those big magnums you just need to shoot in that general area and the elk will drop  :chuckle:

Works for grouse, LOL
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #117 on: May 20, 2017, 07:59:38 PM »
I hear with those big magnums you just need to shoot in that general area and the elk will drop  :chuckle:

Works for grouse, LOL

I'm half convinced I could walk up to s grouse and grab it to save the shell lol

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2017, 08:52:58 AM »
Putting a 30-06 above a 7mm RM on a elk killer list is just plain wrong and no 308 win. yet a 6.5 creed has me scratching my head of course I do consider Field and Stream a joke of a magazine.

An industry insider told me that the magazine editors want you to incorporate the "something new" that few presently own and make it all the rage so that more people will buy a new rifle from their advertisers. They want as many references to this newfangled  caliber "slipped in" even where doing so is a stretch.  It is all about making people want to try what "everyone else" has to see for themselves if the hype lives up to it's claims.

The end goal is to generate a critical mass of "fan boys" and have this take off "organically" and then ride the wave until the whole process starts again with the next "wonder cartridge." 

It also sells magazines to the fan boys because they have to have everything that is in print on the subject just so they don't miss anything.     

   
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #119 on: May 21, 2017, 09:05:45 AM »
I hear with those big magnums you just need to shoot in that general area and the elk will drop  :chuckle:

Works for grouse, LOL

I'm half convinced I could walk up to s grouse and grab it to save the shell lol

Shhhh, don't let the secrect out! :o
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #120 on: May 21, 2017, 09:07:39 AM »
Pretty much my understanding too.  Keep shuffling lists of new calibers/designs to sell more stuff.  An 03 Springfield in 06 would be fine for probably 99% of all big game.

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #121 on: May 22, 2017, 07:52:51 PM »
375 H&H would be sweet for an elk rifle!   :tup:

Or maybe a 375 Ruger, if you're a reloader.

I just got a 338 a couple months ago so it'll probably be my elk rifle from now on. That is until I get bored with killing elk so easily and "too dead" with it, then I might go back to my 270 for the added challenge.
375 Ruger Guide Gun with a Nosler 300gr. Accubond traveling 2590fps is my elk rifle. Back up is REM 721 300 H&H shooting 200gr. Partitions.
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #122 on: May 23, 2017, 01:35:35 PM »
With bullet performance these days hunting and killing has changed drastically in the last 50 years. You hear about the debates of old from the 50's 60's 70's and today about which is better blah blah blah. I say find a gun that you are confident with and know your range and limitations while hunting and get out and enjoy the woods. I happen to have a .270 WSM and really do enjoy that rifle, I have never hesitated shooting anything with it. I did shoot my bull last year with a .280 Ackley Improved, and after messing around with that cartridge last summer I really like it as well as far as performance!
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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #123 on: May 23, 2017, 02:11:47 PM »
Usually about 20% bigger than I need  :tup:

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Re: what caliber do you all use?
« Reply #124 on: May 23, 2017, 05:53:40 PM »
338 rum lights out
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