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Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« on: May 16, 2017, 03:46:10 PM »
So the question and topic come up all the time.

"What did that bear weigh?"

"Oh about 300 pounds" is the standard answer for a mature bear. Studies show that you're wrong.

But I'm not here to berate you, I'd like your help in testing two methods for judging a bear in the field.

The first is the length-girth chart.



Length is a skinned bear measuring from tip of nose to tip of tail.

Girth is measured behind the front shoulders all the way around the body.

Obviously in some situations a tape measure isn't handy. So take a piece of para cord and tie a knot at the length location and one for the girth and check when you get out.

The other method requires a small luggage scale (less then 75 lb capacity) and involves weighing each BONE IN quarter minus feet and multiplying by 3.25 (thanks to a forum member for this method).

So 100 pounds in quarters would equate to a 325 pound bear.

And of course if you can get a picture of a bear before you gut him hanging on a scale AND then do the aforementioned methods to compare accuracy that would be even better!

Happy hunting, and really curious to see the results!


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2017, 04:14:59 PM »
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2017, 04:15:52 PM »
So the question and topic come up all the time.

"What did that bear weigh?"

"Oh about 300 pounds" is the standard answer for a mature bear. Studies show that your wrong.

But I'm not here to berate you, I'd like your help in testing two methods for judging a bear in the field.

The first is the length-girth chart.



Length is a skinned bear measuring from tip of nose to tip of tail.

Girth is measured behind the front shoulders all the way around the body.

Obviously in some situations a tape measure isn't handy. So take a piece of para cord and tie a knot at the length location and one for the girth and check when you get out.

The other method requires a small luggage scale (less then 75 lb capacity) and involves weighing each BONE IN quarter minus feet and multiplying by 3.25 (thanks to a forum member for this method).

So 100 pounds in quarters would equate to a 325 pound bear.

And of course if you can get a picture of a bear before you gut him hanging on a scale AND then do the aforementioned methods to compare accuracy that would be even better!

Happy hunting, and really curious to see the results!


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2017, 04:17:44 PM »

you're wrong
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2017, 04:29:42 PM »
So 100 pounds in quarters would equate to a 325 pound bear.

Not a chance this is accurate.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2017, 04:35:08 PM »
So 100 pounds in quarters would equate to a 325 pound bear.

Not a chance this is accurate.
i havent tested it myself, but the person i heard this from has killed a heap of good bears. its not like bear quarters are big...
heck even that toad we just cut up, the quarters fit in TAG backstrap bags... ive cut up a few big bears and they dont yield much meat..

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2017, 04:37:19 PM »
No matter how large the bear is that I will get, it will weigh 325lbs.  :chuckle:

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2017, 04:39:43 PM »
@high country
Did you weigh anything on your big bear?
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 04:43:53 PM »

@high country
Did you weigh anything on your big bear?


I scaled the hide with skull and paws @ 75lbs.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 04:44:57 PM »
So 100 pounds in quarters would equate to a 325 pound bear.

Not a chance this is accurate.
i havent tested it myself, but the person i heard this from has killed a heap of good bears. its not like bear quarters are big...
heck even that toad we just cut up, the quarters fit in TAG backstrap bags... ive cut up a few big bears and they dont yield much meat..

I agree, however, you can't tell me the head, hide and guts make up the other 225#.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 04:48:28 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2017, 04:58:52 PM »
I'll get a weight on it before I cut it up. I figured about 50 lbs of blood, guts and trimmed junk on mine. It's a pretty large bear for the spring based on what I've been around in my area. Most seem to be in the 175-225# range. I guessed the one in my profile pic @ 275 live weight. I'm about #240 in the picture.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 05:04:59 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.


150 is pretty optimistic IMO.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2017, 05:13:56 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.

I think you have 100# tops there Jack.  That's probably high.
And a 75# Head and Hide package is huge.

I've packed out numerous bears, always in pieces.  I've never had a whole bear to weigh, so it interests me.

One thing is for sure, it takes a big ass dog to weigh a ton.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2017, 05:32:24 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.

I think you have 100# tops there Jack.  That's probably high.
And a 75# Head and Hide package is huge.

I've packed out numerous bears, always in pieces.  I've never had a whole bear to weigh, so it interests me.

One thing is for sure, it takes a big ass dog to weigh a ton.

100 lbs in quarters for a bear is a monster.


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Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2017, 05:33:09 PM »
But this thread isn't for arguing about anything. It's to gather quantitative data.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2017, 05:46:47 PM »
I just measured my bear chest @ 43". He stood about 6'5". The height is something of a guess as he was in rigor a bit and my tape stopped @ 72"....he bested that by about 5".

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2017, 06:00:20 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.

I think you have 100# tops there Jack.  That's probably high.
And a 75# Head and Hide package is huge.

I've packed out numerous bears, always in pieces.  I've never had a whole bear to weigh, so it interests me.

One thing is for sure, it takes a big ass dog to weigh a ton.

100 lbs in quarters for a bear is a monster.


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maybe i'm a little confused about the thread but if i'm reading it right as far as the calculations go if you take the 4 bone in quarters of a bear (minus rib cage) and they weigh 100 lbs total than the live weight of the bear would be 325 lbs ?  is this what i am reading ?  yes i've had a couple beers and can't expound further on the virtues of my wisdom until i know that is what i'm reading ?!?

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2017, 06:00:54 PM »
I just measured my bear chest @ 43". He stood about 6'5". The height is something of a guess as he was in rigor a bit and my tape stopped @ 72"....he bested that by about 5".

Which according to the chart puts him at 265.

For some additional information, in California the average adult male weighs about 190 lbs, where on KUIU island where food is extremely plentiful and nutritious, an adult male black bear weighs approximately 254 lbs.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2017, 06:02:15 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.

I think you have 100# tops there Jack.  That's probably high.
And a 75# Head and Hide package is huge.

I've packed out numerous bears, always in pieces.  I've never had a whole bear to weigh, so it interests me.

One thing is for sure, it takes a big ass dog to weigh a ton.

100 lbs in quarters for a bear is a monster.


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maybe i'm a little confused about the thread but if i'm reading it right as far as the calculations go if you take the 4 bone in quarters of a bear (minus rib cage) and they weigh 100 lbs total than the live weight of the bear would be 325 lbs ?  is this what i am reading ?  yes i've had a couple beers and can't expound further on the virtues of my wisdom until i know that is what i'm reading ?!?

That's one of the methods we are checking, and comparing it against the length/girth chart.

But yes your math is correct.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2017, 06:05:18 PM »
I just measured my bear chest @ 43". He stood about 6'5". The height is something of a guess as he was in rigor a bit and my tape stopped @ 72"....he bested that by about 5".



Which according to the chart puts him at 265.

For some additional information, in California the average adult male weighs about 190 lbs, where on KUIU island where food is extremely plentiful and nutritious, an adult male black bear weighs approximately 254 lbs.


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I'll let you know when I get him off the hook....perhaps tomorrow.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2017, 06:06:55 PM »
I just measured my bear chest @ 43". He stood about 6'5". The height is something of a guess as he was in rigor a bit and my tape stopped @ 72"....he bested that by about 5".



Which according to the chart puts him at 265.

For some additional information, in California the average adult male weighs about 190 lbs, where on KUIU island where food is extremely plentiful and nutritious, an adult male black bear weighs approximately 254 lbs.


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I'll let you know when I get him off the hook....perhaps tomorrow.

Do you have him whole and hanging?


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2017, 06:35:31 PM »
Pretty much. I lassoed him by the waist and hoisted him up with a chainfall. It's not the prettiest rig, but it was late abd I was alone.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2017, 06:42:43 PM »
Pretty much. I lassoed him by the waist and hoisted him up with a chainfall. It's not the prettiest rig, but it was late abd I was alone.

I assume he's gutted though right?


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2017, 06:47:11 PM »
But this thread isn't for arguing about anything. It's to gather quantitative data.


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