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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2017, 06:50:25 PM »
Pretty much. I lassoed him by the waist and hoisted him up with a chainfall. It's not the prettiest rig, but it was late abd I was alone.

I assume he's gutted though right?


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You're kidding, right?

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2017, 07:40:24 PM »
100 pounds in quarters
75 pounds in hide, skull and paws.
Is there another 150 pounds in guts, spine, rib bones, etc? I'd guess it's close to that. I don't know. I've never been around a dead bear. Never packed one out.
so according to this math if the front shoulders minus the ribs weigh 20 lbs each and the back quarters weigh 40 lbs each than that is 120 lbs hanging quarters (times 3.25) so that bear was 390 lbs live weight ?  that is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard of

I think you have 100# tops there Jack.  That's probably high.
And a 75# Head and Hide package is huge.

I've packed out numerous bears, always in pieces.  I've never had a whole bear to weigh, so it interests me.

One thing is for sure, it takes a big ass dog to weigh a ton.

100 lbs in quarters for a bear is a monster.


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maybe i'm a little confused about the thread but if i'm reading it right as far as the calculations go if you take the 4 bone in quarters of a bear (minus rib cage) and they weigh 100 lbs total than the live weight of the bear would be 325 lbs ?  is this what i am reading ?  yes i've had a couple beers and can't expound further on the virtues of my wisdom until i know that is what i'm reading ?!?

That's one of the methods we are checking, and comparing it against the length/girth chart.

But yes your math is correct.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2017, 07:46:59 PM »
I think I read: that is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard of

Is that correct Brew?
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2017, 07:58:14 PM »
My last bear measured 72" long with 47" girth. The taxidermist said it probably weighed about 300-325 live weight. I had 110 pounds of cut and wrapped meat.

Your chart would be close but multiplying the bone in quarters by 3.25 looks like a bunch of crap.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2017, 08:03:24 PM »
I think I read: that is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard of

Is that correct Brew?

So I'm assuming none of you guys have actually weighed quarters.

How much meat do you think we got off this bear. And how much do you think he weighed?






How about this bear?



Or this one?



In my experience the majority of bear weight is NOT in the quarters.

And the rear is certainly not double the size as the front.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2017, 08:10:23 PM »
Silk- I haven't weighed quarters. I'm not arguing, honestly.

I'll go out and say the first bear you posted was probably 300# live. He looks heavy coupled but not very long.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2017, 08:11:10 PM »
My last bear measured 72" long with 47" girth. The taxidermist said it probably weighed about 300-325 live weight. I had 110 pounds of cut and wrapped meat.

Your chart would be close but multiplying the bone in quarters by 3.25 looks like a bunch of crap.

Got a picture?

Also was that 110 pounds brought in or after mixing with pork?


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2017, 08:18:28 PM »
It's really tough to judge weight based on pics because there's rarely any scale to measure from. Without knowing you I might guess you're 6'-2" and you could be 5'-4". I tossed some pics with my tape just to get a baseline for size. I tried to gage using your rifle, but being behind the bear makes it tough.

It's all just for fun anyhow. I've killed some studs and dinks over the years and anymore I'm just happy to have some time to spend in the field soaking up memories.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2017, 08:21:06 PM »
Silk- I haven't weighed quarters. I'm not arguing, honestly.

I'll go out and say the first bear you posted was probably 300# live. He looks heavy coupled but not very long.

It was about 74-6" it was just longer then my wingspan and I'm 6'2".

We had to trim some bloodshot and lost almost all the meat on one quarter thanks to a Hornady ELDx.

Butcher weighed the Meat in at 30 lbs.

That bear took 4 grown men to move.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2017, 08:23:01 PM »
So you had 30# of meat?
How much do you think the whole bear weighed?
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2017, 08:29:15 PM »
So you had 30# of meat?
How much do you think the whole bear weighed?

Hard to say. Between all of our guesses it ranged from 265-300

I think that's a fair analysis.

So probably between 70-80 pounds of quarters with the lost meat and bones maybe? equates to 230-265 pounds based on that formula, which comes in a little low for our guesses which is the opposite of most people's opinions on it.

What I'd like to get going forward is some more data to compare BOTH the chart versus the formula to see if they ballpark each other.

Not argue about what the scale in a hunters mind estimates it at... 😂😂😂

How big was that fish?


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2017, 08:33:16 PM »
Maybe we all process bears differently. Or they have drastically different body compositions.
Here is my best bear, which yielded well over 30# of meat.

I put him at 225# live weight.

He was killed in the fall and squared at 6'2".

I have no other measurements.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2017, 08:35:03 PM »

The weight estimating method described in this Eastman's video is what we've always used

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2017, 08:35:31 PM »
Maybe we all process bears differently. Or they have drastically different body compositions.
Here is my best bear, which yielded well over 30# of meat.

I put him at 225# live weight.

He was killed in the fall and squared at 6'2".

I have no other measurements.

I think you missed it above. But we lost a quarter, and I think half the blackstrap and some other meat. His yield was higher then 30#.

The black was 38# of meat, we lost nothing but some neck.


And the smaller color phase was about 22#.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2017, 08:36:46 PM »
Ok so if I measure a rug I have at the house will it work for these measure ment too weight scales ? I got him out whole and know what his hanging weight was ..

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2017, 08:39:46 PM »
My bear will be a great example of what could be as it was only shot in the head. I lost about 4 Oz of neck meat.

I made about 60-70 lbs of sausage from my last spring bear.  I don't have any measurements on it other than the pic of me and it in a tree, me being 240ish pounds and 6'.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2017, 08:40:34 PM »
I see it now. Again, this is interesting. I don't have much experience in weighing these critters as they've all came out in pieces.
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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2017, 08:40:59 PM »
I'm not defending the "formula" I just want people to try and get some actual weights and measurements going forward. So I can see if it's viable! 😂😂😂


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2017, 08:41:56 PM »
Ok so if I measure a rug I have at the house will it work for these measure ment too weight scales ? I got him out whole and know what his hanging weight was ..

Maybe! We can test. Sometimes a taxi will cut some. But measure him behind the shoulders and length. We can compare it to the chart at least. Do you know 100% what weight at butcher was?


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 08:42:20 PM »
My bear will be a great example of what could be as it was only shot in the head. I lost about 4 Oz of neck meat.

I made about 60-70 lbs of sausage from my last spring bear.  I don't have any measurements on it other than the pic of me and it in a tree, me being 240ish pounds and 6'.

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2017, 08:46:38 PM »
100% he was 290 hanging with no hide head guts or paws .

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2017, 08:49:48 PM »
100% he was 290 hanging with no hide head guts or paws .

So what's the measurements? Sounds like a stud.


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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2017, 08:53:40 PM »
So he is 6'3" long so 75" and the rug is 45 " wide behind the shoulders . His skull scored 19 6/8 and he tooth aged at 19.5 years old . I killed him with a stick bow when I was 18 !

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2017, 08:55:10 PM »
So by this scale it says live weight would be 300 lbs it's a little off just saying ... lol

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Re: Bear Weight--Need Your Help
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2017, 08:56:48 PM »
So by this scale it says live weight would be 300 lbs it's a little off just saying ... lol

Got a field picture?


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