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Offline Rob

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2017, 09:13:50 AM »
Related question on goat conflict reduction hunts.

If you draw this tag, are you told by the State a specific area within the defined tag parameters, or specific goat to hunt?  Or can you hunt the whole defined area for the tag and take an animal of your choice?

I would not want to get drawn for this once in a lifetime tag and be told to take a young nanny....


http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01903/wdfw01903.pdf


Yeah, that is what prompted my questions.  Was wondering if it was treated like a master hunter hunt where they tell you a specific place to go, and limit what you can and cannot take based on what the "conflict" was.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2017, 12:17:34 PM »
I don't believe so and I don't see anything that insinuates that. There have been a few of these hunt stories posted on here. Don't recall anything like that happening.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2017, 02:25:44 PM »
I hiked the area last year and there are lots of goats when the hikers start showing up to like the people's pee.  I have posted last year as well for people to really be sensitive to harvesting the goat.  If you get drawn please post on this site so you can kill your goat in the evening when no hikers are around and have enough help to pack it down quickly and safely with out any hikers seeing it. 

If you kill it in front of a bunch of hikers and they video it... This hunt is over.  The Federal Fish and Wildlife will kill them and no one will get to hunt them.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2017, 02:46:21 PM »
Thanks TheHunt for reminding people of this. I think the winners of this tag should receive some sort of packet that would outline stuff like this. Everyone has video on there phone now, someone blows up a goat midday on the trail and we will get to watch the last hunt on Inside Edition

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2017, 03:07:12 PM »
No video, but found this on WTA from last year:

http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/trip-reports/trip_report.2016-09-20.2470366531

"20-30 people at the top that had to see the goat get killed"

Personally, I wouldn't let that stop me. I don't think I could pass up a legal goat in an effort to not offend someone, and hope that I can get one later in the day when nobody else is around.

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2017, 03:26:09 PM »
I am in agreement with you. but I think if enough Hunt Washington folks were up there they could wait for the people to leave and than knock it down and get it taken care of, or get up there early and knock it down and hiked down when the people are starting to hike up. 
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2017, 06:56:41 PM »
I don't believe so and I don't see anything that insinuates that. There have been a few of these hunt stories posted on here. Don't recall anything like that happening.

Good deal, maybe I'll actually put in for one of these next time rather than just do points!
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2017, 07:33:31 PM »
Thanks TheHunt for reminding people of this. I think the winners of this tag should receive some sort of packet that would outline stuff like this. Everyone has video on there phone now, someone blows up a goat midday on the trail and we will get to watch the last hunt on Inside Edition

I hate to see this become the status quo.  Killing an animal legally, ethically, and because there is a burgeoning population coming into conflict with the exact people that are horrified with this, but having to skulk and hide the hunt so some ignorant idiots are not offended offends me. I hate the fact our society is ruled by this ignorant vocal group. Personally I would like to see them all gored by a goat just wanting to defend their right to eat their sweaty leather boots of lick their piss off the ground.

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2017, 09:52:39 AM »
So, if WDFW sends you a hunt info packet and of course we are required to report our hunt results (I believe most OIL type tags also ask for more details like # of animals seen and such), then who ever draws these tags should buy a hat or jacket that says' "research" on it...nothing more, just "research" and wear it once they stalk the goat and kill it, for the pack out...then when a "hiker" ask/gets mad, just let them know that goats in the area are not native, and there is a conflict issue with them where one killed a hiker and you are doing research for WDFW and part of that research is to thin/cull the possible conflict goats that are destroying the native vegetation and potentially harmful to people...leave it at that, as it is the truth, you are doing research for WDFW and you are culling a conflict goat that doesn't belong there to begin with!

Just my thoughts...

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2017, 10:59:12 AM »
Grade-Creek, when I drew this tag in '14. Mt Ellinor was my last choice of the area to hunt because of the high use of the area by hikers.  The day I hiked to the top to hunt every hiker saw my rifle on my back and asked what I was hunting.  I told them goats and proceeded to explain the scenario the bios had told me with them being an invasive species and the park service wanting to eliminate them and the deal that WDFW and the park service came up with.  Once explained, ( if they didn't already have an issue with the goats)everybody I spoke to that day agreed they had to go.
  On the flip side, I wouldn't have shot one in front of a bunch of tree huggers, if for nothing else, just to avoid a human conflict hunt. :chuckle:
  that hunt takes the ability to educate the non hunters as to why, so as to not shine a bad light on us hunters as a whole, in my opinion.
  Now the area is twice as big and it appears easier to avoid contact with the majority of the hikers if drawn.
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