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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #475 on: November 03, 2017, 12:07:28 PM »
Fantastic Video

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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #476 on: November 05, 2017, 09:41:53 AM »
What a cool write up on it and beautiful pictures!! I hope I draw that tag and can still hike! Lol Loved the story!! Great lesson on peeing!

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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #477 on: November 05, 2017, 10:37:41 AM »
Now that you've had a few days anything you'd do different looking back on it? Other than being able to control the weather seems like a dream way for it all to play out.
I don't know what I could have done differently. I would have scouted more. Specifically I would have scouted the Rimrock GMU so I had a backup plan for bad weather. Bad weather happened and I didn't have a clue what to do.

I learned a lot about goat hunting, gear, backpacking, navigation, you name it.
If I was going to share 2 things from all of this....
1--I can't remember for sure why I chose the Goat Rocks but I think it was because there are 5 tags issued there and it seems like simple logic that that might make for better odds of drawing. I really wanted to shoot a goat with longer hair, which obviously means you have to wait till later in the season to do it. This is not something I thought about when I was applying. I don't think it's as important with the other OIL's as it is with goats, but access is a major concern. My good friend Drew told me about 150 times that the real trophy with a goat is the hair....wait for the hair...wait for the hair...so I did. If you want to shoot a goat with hair, you need to apply for and/or draw a unit that you can access. No messing around. All the goats in the Goat Rocks are at least a few miles from the road so make sure you can hike and either have the gear to spend the night out there or be prepared to buy it all. I can't really see day hiking from the car as a viable option. A lot of the access, trailheads, etc are up a road that is not well maintained and not at all maintained when it snows. And it's not at sea level. So be aware of that.

The other thing I would stress is nanny/billy identification. If you're not a "goat guy"(I'm not), be prepared to scour over hundreds of pictures practicing ID'ing them. From a conservation standpoint, I would have eaten my tag before I killed a nanny. I understand accidents happen, and I was prepared for that myself, but I still sat 99.7 yards from a goat I was pretty much positive was a billy for 45 minutes before I shot him. I had to convince myself I was right. (I second guess myself a lot...) Bushcraft posted this video on here a month or so ago. It's the best video I've seen for this purpose.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,218833.msg2911419.html#msg2911419
The state also sends you a bunch of material on ID also. The state of Alaska requires you take an ID test. WA sends you some of their info. Don't take it lightly. One thing I learned was that it's pretty easy to ID a billy when it's a billy. When it's a big nanny, things get more difficult. If you happen to be on FAcebook, the Rocky Mountain Goat Alliance puts up a guess the sex billy/nanny pic. These were extremely helpful too. Also join the Rocky Mountain Goat Alliance. It's an org that is working hard with goat conservation. They do projects here in Washington too, with the end goal being more opportunity for us to draw tags in the future. Well....for you guys to draw tags in the future. I guess I'm done with that game.
Congrats again Josh, epic journey!  And your insite will surly help future goat hunters, including myself.  You brought up very important points and that video on Identifying Billyís was great.  Let next years draw begin!!!!   You did it right and gave the respect to the hunt that it deserves! 

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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #478 on: November 05, 2017, 02:56:39 PM »
Now that you've had a few days anything you'd do different looking back on it? Other than being able to control the weather seems like a dream way for it all to play out.
I don't know what I could have done differently. I would have scouted more. Specifically I would have scouted the Rimrock GMU so I had a backup plan for bad weather. Bad weather happened and I didn't have a clue what to do.

I learned a lot about goat hunting, gear, backpacking, navigation, you name it.
If I was going to share 2 things from all of this....
1--I can't remember for sure why I chose the Goat Rocks but I think it was because there are 5 tags issued there and it seems like simple logic that that might make for better odds of drawing. I really wanted to shoot a goat with longer hair, which obviously means you have to wait till later in the season to do it. This is not something I thought about when I was applying. I don't think it's as important with the other OIL's as it is with goats, but access is a major concern. My good friend Drew told me about 150 times that the real trophy with a goat is the hair....wait for the hair...wait for the hair...so I did. If you want to shoot a goat with hair, you need to apply for and/or draw a unit that you can access. No messing around. All the goats in the Goat Rocks are at least a few miles from the road so make sure you can hike and either have the gear to spend the night out there or be prepared to buy it all. I can't really see day hiking from the car as a viable option. A lot of the access, trailheads, etc are up a road that is not well maintained and not at all maintained when it snows. And it's not at sea level. So be aware of that.

The other thing I would stress is nanny/billy identification. If you're not a "goat guy"(I'm not), be prepared to scour over hundreds of pictures practicing ID'ing them. From a conservation standpoint, I would have eaten my tag before I killed a nanny. I understand accidents happen, and I was prepared for that myself, but I still sat 99.7 yards from a goat I was pretty much positive was a billy for 45 minutes before I shot him. I had to convince myself I was right. (I second guess myself a lot...) Bushcraft posted this video on here a month or so ago. It's the best video I've seen for this purpose.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,218833.msg2911419.html#msg2911419
The state also sends you a bunch of material on ID also. The state of Alaska requires you take an ID test. WA sends you some of their info. Don't take it lightly. One thing I learned was that it's pretty easy to ID a billy when it's a billy. When it's a big nanny, things get more difficult. If you happen to be on FAcebook, the Rocky Mountain Goat Alliance puts up a guess the sex billy/nanny pic. These were extremely helpful too. Also join the Rocky Mountain Goat Alliance. It's an org that is working hard with goat conservation. They do projects here in Washington too, with the end goal being more opportunity for us to draw tags in the future. Well....for you guys to draw tags in the future. I guess I'm done with that game.
Congrats again Josh, epic journey!  And your insite will surly help future goat hunters, including myself.  You brought up very important points and that video on Identifying Billyís was great.  Let next years draw begin!!!!   You did it right and gave the respect to the hunt that it deserves!

Thanks buddy. I learned a lot from other folks in this adventure. If I can help someone next year, then Iíve done my part.  These hunts are a huge deal from a conservation standpoint and that aspect shouldnít be taken lightly as Bushcraft mentioned in that other thread.


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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #479 on: November 05, 2017, 08:46:01 PM »
Fantastic goat Josh!!!! I knew you'd get it done. A huge congratulations my friend. Well deserved!!!!!!
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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #480 on: November 05, 2017, 09:00:32 PM »
Josh,
Well done my friend. Epic hunt, epic adventure,epic pics and story.
Love the vid as well.
Congrats, couldn't of happened to a better guy
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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #481 on: November 05, 2017, 09:20:49 PM »
Thanks fellas!! Much appreciate the kind words.


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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #482 on: November 07, 2017, 08:34:31 PM »
That's awesome Josh! I was rooting for ya,
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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #483 on: November 08, 2017, 08:00:24 PM »
That's awesome Josh! I was rooting for ya,
  Congrats!

Thanks man. I appreciate all the support.


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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #484 on: November 08, 2017, 08:03:00 PM »
Awesome Josh!   Jealous as in all my time in AK, Goat was the one animal I didn't get for one reason or another.  Congrats on a fantastic and hard earned trophy Billy! 

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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #485 on: November 08, 2017, 08:03:55 PM »
What an absolutely incredible adventure! Congrats on a true OIL hunt!

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Re: Got an OIL permit long before I'm due.....
« Reply #486 on: November 09, 2017, 04:14:20 PM »
Great story and congrats. 

 

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