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Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« on: June 29, 2017, 06:42:00 AM »
Weird to see a young buck at Ice Lakes in Chelan County this week.  Mule deer spend the summer up there but whitetail typically stay in the lower valley; mostly north of Lake Chelan.  June 28, 2017

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 06:43:42 AM »
Another photo.

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 06:47:26 AM »
May be a whitetail , but it identifies as a mule deer therefore it's a Muley  :chuckle:

We see lots of whitetails in ID up to 7,000 and we hunt whiteys up to 5,500 in NE WA

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 07:26:01 AM »
Yep, if he identifies as a muley we shouldn't kick him out our mule deer country. :chuckle:

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 07:29:36 AM »
Nice pics!
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 07:52:19 AM »
Seeing more and more Whiteys in central wa mule country every year. 
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 08:37:59 AM »
Ive killed two of my nicest whitetails in Muley country.  I couldn't pass them up.   Not at 7200 though.   Fantastic shots
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 08:40:21 AM »
Nice shots.  About what elevation is snow line in that area?

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 09:10:13 AM »
My first year in Wyoming as a poor nonresident college student, I was hunting blue grouse at 10,000 feet at timberline during the October deer season.  I came around the top of a riparian stringer and jumped a huge whitetail out of his bed.  The river bottom at the base of these mountains always has whitetails, but I was 2,000' above the river and never saw another whitetail up high like that.  Pretty sure he was just waiting out hunting season. 

In Chelan County I often see young whitetail bucks in funny places during the rut, definitely unusual to see this one there in summer.  Thanks for sharing, great pics!
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 09:19:32 AM »
 I ran into a few at about 8000 in the Bitterroots, West of Darby several years ago.
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 09:24:28 AM »
Seems that whitetail are the more dominant species. I see more and more whitetail all over the higher elevations in NE WA where ten years ago I would only see mulies. 

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2017, 12:33:19 PM »
We took our first whitetail out of Benson Creek in Okanogan County in 1961; the invasion has continued and now they are even in Chelan County south of Lake Chelan.  My son took a one above the town of Entiat in 94.  Not fond of the species because they spend all summer eating what the migratory mule deer need for winter browse and they are more dominant; watch them at the haystacks in the Methow chase off the timid muley.  We have never before seen any in the Glacier Peak Wilderness and this one is at over 7200 feet in the June snow field.

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 01:23:20 PM »
Should be considered an invasive species in chelan county and be exterminated, the mule deer numbers will suffer immensely if they continue getting a stronger foothold.
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 07:02:43 PM »
I think the most out of place animal I've seen was in Idaho at 9,500  feet, a really nice antelope buck up in the boulder mountains.
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 09:51:49 PM »
This issue is always on my mind. Where I hunt, it's a mixed unit and over the last 15 years the whitetail have exploded. Mule deer correspondingly declined. Makes me wonder if mule deer have a lasting future in WA given the apparent adaptability of whitetails at these elevations. With regard to dominance, I remain undecided. I've seen mules shy away from whites, but I've also seen a single mule deer buck completely intimidate a whole group of whitetail bucks with chasing and what looked like biting though I cannot be sure given the distance. I'm starting to think they should open up a one day season in certain units and allow a second harvest. Does anyone else think there is a long term sustainability issue with the expansion of white tail territory?

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2017, 10:33:49 PM »
In 94 when my son took a whitetail buck on the hill back of Entiat, on the way down the road we met a wdfw rig, stopped him, show the buck and asked why they didn't open the season for any whitetail.  He said that, if they did that, people would be shooting mostly muleys by mistake.  seems to me that its Not that hard to see the difference.  Love to see Chelan County remain mule deer country (at least south of Lake Chelan).

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 05:28:35 AM »
Benchleg :chuckle:

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 05:33:37 AM »
His mother chased him off just before fawning and he went for a long walk.  I would not consider them more dominant but certainly more invasive and adaptable.

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 08:23:45 AM »
Id use the terms more aggressive and more adaptable.
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 08:33:09 AM »
In 94 when my son took a whitetail buck on the hill back of Entiat, on the way down the road we met a wdfw rig, stopped him, show the buck and asked why they didn't open the season for any whitetail.  He said that, if they did that, people would be shooting mostly muleys by mistake.  seems to me that its Not that hard to see the difference.  Love to see Chelan County remain mule deer country (at least south of Lake Chelan).

That's BS! If they really wanted the public to harvest more whitetail than they would allow the buck permit holders in those areas to hunt during the actual Whitetail rut in early Dec and not the mule deer rut in early Nov.

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2017, 09:28:18 AM »
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2017, 09:34:16 AM »
I'm a mule deer guy. IMHO, whitetails are an invasive species that should be dealt with accordingly.
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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2017, 11:16:34 AM »
That first pic is great.

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2017, 12:40:22 PM »
I think bone hit the nail on the head with "more aggressive and adaptable". I've watched smaller less mature whitetail bucks run more dominant mule deer bucks off during the rut. The range they've spread to now compared to 50 years ago is proof of their adaptability. Everyone always seems to cry and freak out over a blue tongue outbreak but I thinks it's natures way of keeping the population somewhat in check.

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Re: Whitetail in Mule Deer Country at 7200 feet
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2017, 04:55:07 PM »
They definitely have a hold west of Lake Chelan

 

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