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Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« on: July 17, 2017, 10:02:53 AM »
I just read this and am curious if anyone had heard of this before?
Any experts on here that can confirm or bust this story?
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Subject: Wasp Spray

I know some of you own GUNS, but this is something to think about...---

If you don't have a gun, here's a more humane way to wreck someone's evil plans for you. Did you know this? I didn't. I never really thought of it before. I guess I can get rid of the baseball bat.

Wasp Spray - A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead.

The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.
Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School. For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray near your door or bed.
Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."
Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 to 30 feet; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades.
It's also one he wants everyone to hear. If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the spray. "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out." Maybe even save a life.
Please share this with all the people who are precious to your life
Did you also know that wasp spray will kill a snake? And a mouse! It will! Good to know, huh? It will also kill a wasp.!!!!
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2017, 10:14:00 AM »
It is illegal to use on humans, can be toxic, and has not been proven to be a reliable human deterrent.
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2017, 10:20:24 AM »
It is illegal to use on humans, can be toxic, and has not been proven to be a reliable human deterrent.
Seems like I've read that before. Maybe on here?
But if I'm working in my garage and someone threatens me and that is all that's handy I'd still use it

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 10:23:08 AM »
It is illegal to use on humans, can be toxic, and has not been proven to be a reliable human deterrent.
Seems like I've read that before. Maybe on here?
But if I'm working in my garage and someone threatens me and that is all that's handy I'd still use it
Of course. Advocating it as a better alternative than pepper spray is where the problem lies.
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 10:48:51 AM »

I've seen this multiple times on hiking forums. Why the H E double hockey sticks would people not just use bear spray? I mean...they even have a holster type setup for bear spray and it's proven. Wasp spray may shoot further, but it's a  stream, not a fog. Kind of like a rifle shot vs. a shotgun shot. I can't imagine it's more accurate than a pepper spray.

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2017, 10:56:34 AM »
I've got enough wasp spray on me to determine that it does nothing.  Might as well carry a fire extinguisher, or hair spray, or engine degreaser, or WD-40, or febreze, or ?  I've got all those on my face at some time or another as well.  I've also had pepper spray on my face and that sucks.


Why not carry something intended for the purpose? 

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 10:56:57 AM »
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 10:59:15 AM »
You would be forced to lie to the LE if you carried that for personal protection, if you lie about that then it calls the entire incident into question.

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2017, 11:23:25 AM »
When I was younger I made the very stupid mistake of standing directly under a wasp nest and spraying RAID straight up at it. Obviously it hit the nest and then fell in my face. I got a bunch in the mouth and eyes which stung and burned but honestly it didn't feel too much worse than getting any type of aerosol based spray on you. A good shower and I was back in action. I think the only merit to it is that it is very startling and might convince someone it is pepper spray when being sprayed.

But with that in mind why don't you get the real thing?

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 11:40:11 AM »
Nothing replaces LEAD.   :chuckle:
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2017, 11:48:45 AM »
Seems to me that if all your replies are accurate that it is incredibly irresponsible for the LEO and self defense instructor cited in this article to be giving this advice.
If the information in the article was true and wasp spray was effective like mace then i could see the benefits.
Less cost and less noticeable.
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2017, 11:56:20 AM »
Seems to me that if all your replies are accurate that it is incredibly irresponsible for the LEO and self defense instructor cited in this article to be giving this advice.
If the information in the article was true and wasp spray was effective like mace then i could see the benefits.
Less cost and less noticeable.
Another explanation is ignorance. There's a fair amount of that going around...
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2017, 12:00:42 PM »
It is illegal to use on humans, can be toxic, and has not been proven to be a reliable human deterrent.

only in "Merica would using something on someone who is committing an illegal act be considered illegal.... oh the irony..
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2017, 12:26:04 PM »
 :) I have heard for many years from many sources including LEO that Wasp spray is very effective, more than pepper???? I have no idea. I have also heard of LEO's using pepper and it was not effective :dunno: :dunno:  everytime.
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2017, 12:40:01 PM »
It is illegal to use on humans, can be toxic, and has not been proven to be a reliable human deterrent.

only in "Merica would using something on someone who is committing an illegal act be considered illegal.... oh the irony..
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2017, 12:49:10 PM »
Seems to me that if all your replies are accurate that it is incredibly irresponsible for the LEO and self defense instructor cited in this article to be giving this advice.
If the information in the article was true and wasp spray was effective like mace then i could see the benefits.
Less cost and less noticeable.
Another explanation is ignorance. There's a fair amount of that going around...

OR maybe another explanation is the whole story is fabricated. 

https://www.truthorfiction.com/wasp-spray/

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2017, 12:55:45 PM »
Seems to me that if all your replies are accurate that it is incredibly irresponsible for the LEO and self defense instructor cited in this article to be giving this advice.
If the information in the article was true and wasp spray was effective like mace then i could see the benefits.
Less cost and less noticeable.
Another explanation is ignorance. There's a fair amount of that going around...

OR maybe another explanation is the whole story is fabricated. 

https://www.truthorfiction.com/wasp-spray/
I read it in a Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: email. It must be true.
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2017, 01:01:12 PM »
Nothing replaces LEAD.   :chuckle:
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2017, 03:18:58 PM »
Seems to me that if all your replies are accurate that it is incredibly irresponsible for the LEO and self defense instructor cited in this article to be giving this advice.
If the information in the article was true and wasp spray was effective like mace then i could see the benefits.
Less cost and less noticeable.
Another explanation is ignorance. There's a fair amount of that going around...

OR maybe another explanation is the whole story is fabricated. 

https://www.truthorfiction.com/wasp-spray/

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2017, 03:38:16 PM »
I'm pretty confident the whole thing is fiction, but I do have a fun anecdote that is 100% true.  The original "tranquilizer dart" guns are made by the Palmer Cap Chur Equipment Co.  I was issued an old Palmer dart rifle and kit, and had the original manual written by Red Palmer, the inventor and founder of the company.  Red was a good ol' Georgia  country boy, and stated in his manual that in addition to delivering capture drugs to animals, a Palmer dart full of Tabasco sauce would ensure that a thief never returned to your home or place of business.  I'm assuming he meant deterrent ... :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2017, 03:45:09 PM »
Yea and while you are at it you might as well use motor oil for salad dressing and rubbing compound for toothpaste. 

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2017, 04:37:17 PM »
Yea and while you are at it you might as well use motor oil for salad dressing and rubbing compound for toothpaste. 

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2017, 09:04:59 PM »
My boss, when I was  working at a small mom and pop auto shop, had a can handy by the front desk. I found it comical  :chuckle:

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Re: Wasp spray as self-defence weapon?
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2017, 08:50:58 AM »
I read somewhere that the idea comes from NYC where pepper spray isn't illegal but has a lot of restrictions. So people would buy a can of wasp spray and leave it near the door.

This is from NYC code:
(c) The net weight of every self-defense spray device shall not exceed 0.75 ounce.


So the people's nanny state only allows the tiny purse sized cans which require getting close to use it.

But using wasp spray as an alternative is a bad idea. If you don't stop the attacker he might take the can and use it against you.