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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #60 on: July 27, 2017, 12:58:48 PM »
The real criminals in that case was the wdfw itself.   When you are trying to do things by the book but you are getting the runaround because of their agenda.  I'd never judge anyone taking matters into their own hands when they are protecting their own.

I would only fault the family on the handling of the remains. Absolutely protect your own. Don't broadcast it afterwards, though. This was a huge error in judgement.

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Searches of the White’s computer files turned up photos of at least one other wolf  killed by Tom, but differently colored, and other evidence, including a deer and a moose poached in 2007 by William.

These guys are poachers, through and through.  Getting behind them is just playing the "enemy of my enemy" game   :twocents:

I don't own a cattle ranch nor have I had my livelihood or home life negatively affected by wolves. Although I agree that, by definition, they poached wolves and I personally wouldn't do it, this is not poaching in the same way as someone killing for thrill or profit. I do try to have empathy for people in different positions/situations from mine. I don't feel I have the right to stand in judgement on that family, except for how they ultimately handled it..

It sounds like they also poached a trophy mule deer, a moose, and hunted bears with hounds.   They agreed to plead guilty to at least some of those charges, apparently, as well as another felony.  It doesn't sound like their actions were meant to protect their livestock but I only know what is in the news.

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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #61 on: July 27, 2017, 01:38:20 PM »
The real criminals in that case was the wdfw itself.   When you are trying to do things by the book but you are getting the runaround because of their agenda.  I'd never judge anyone taking matters into their own hands when they are protecting their own.

Exactly.

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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #62 on: July 27, 2017, 07:46:27 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/updates/update_on_washington_wolves_20170727.pdf

Update on Washington wolves
Latest reports on key wolf activities, conservation efforts, and management actions
July 27, 2017

One wolf removed from Smackout Pack

The 2017 Wolf-Livestock Interaction Protocol describes tools and approaches designed to influence pack behavior with the goal of reducing the potential for recurrent livestock depredation while continuing to promote wolf recovery. On July 20, WDFW notified the public that non-lethal deterrence measures were not achieving that goal in the Smackout pack territory, and that the director authorized incremental lethal removal of wolves as another tool to address recurrent depredations.

The department’s approach to incremental removal consists of a period of active removal operations followed by a period of evaluation to determine if those actions met the goal.

The protocol states that once a removal operation has begun, the department will update the public weekly on the number of individuals removed. Lethal removal actions began one week
ago, and during that week the department removed 1 wolf.

The protocol also states that in most situations the period of active removal will be two weeks or less. Removal operations are ongoing, and the department will provide another update in
one week.
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #63 on: July 27, 2017, 08:09:41 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/updates/update_on_washington_wolves_20170727.pdf

Update on Washington wolves
Latest reports on key wolf activities, conservation efforts, and management actions
July 27, 2017

One wolf removed from Smackout Pack

The 2017 Wolf-Livestock Interaction Protocol describes tools and approaches designed to influence pack behavior with the goal of reducing the potential for recurrent livestock depredation while continuing to promote wolf recovery. On July 20, WDFW notified the public that non-lethal deterrence measures were not achieving that goal in the Smackout pack territory, and that the director authorized incremental lethal removal of wolves as another tool to address recurrent depredations.

The department’s approach to incremental removal consists of a period of active removal operations followed by a period of evaluation to determine if those actions met the goal.

The protocol states that once a removal operation has begun, the department will update the public weekly on the number of individuals removed. Lethal removal actions began one week
ago, and during that week the department removed 1 wolf.

The protocol also states that in most situations the period of active removal will be two weeks or less. Removal operations are ongoing, and the department will provide another update in
one week.
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2017, 08:37:29 PM »
Should turn into another 100k fiasco like the Profanity peak removal and the Wedge pack removal.

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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2017, 08:50:59 AM »
"The department’s approach to incremental removal consists of a period of active removal operations followed by a period of evaluation to determine if those actions met the goal.



Better known as the waiting period between livestock predation. Like I have mentioned, including WDF&Wolves in any wolf predation on livestock will only prolong the killings. This is just a game for WDFW, while the rancher etc. loses.

This game will continue until WDFW are forced to kill entire packs involved in the predations on livestock, any guess when that will happen?

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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2017, 08:52:42 AM »
Required? The next time we have a Republican Governor, which is never.
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2017, 03:37:47 PM »
2017 Wolf/Livestock Interaction Protocol, if wolves could read the progressive ones would all move here and the conservative ones, most I think, would move some where with a challenge, Idaho, Montana or Wyoming.

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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2017, 05:07:31 PM »
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2017, 08:55:56 PM »
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2017, 07:29:57 AM »

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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2017, 09:02:12 AM »
Bone, is that a woodland caribou?

Regardless if it is or not, sure don't hear much about this herd on the brink right in the midst of the thriving wolf packs. Ironic.
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2017, 09:29:59 AM »
Looks bovine to me.
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Re: Breaking wolf news
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2017, 11:38:37 AM »
Bone, is that a woodland caribou?

Regardless if it is or not, sure don't hear much about this herd on the brink right in the midst of the thriving wolf packs. Ironic.

I believe the great country of Canada just removed a wolf pack that was threatening a population of woodland caribou just across the border since they caribou have a greater threat of extinction than the darned wolves.

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