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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2017, 02:46:22 AM »
Id feel good all day at 50 at the moment, but I've never had to shoot over 20 yards.. Although I've never shot an elk... But dang have I been close! How can one be 3 yrds from an elk and still have no shot??!!? Just ask me! It's happened more than once! Ha.. All the other critters I've shot with my bow have all be under 20 though.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2017, 03:16:16 AM »
70 as of today. Drilling my target even when fatigued a little with Shuttle T.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2017, 05:43:17 AM »
I practice to 80 but in the real world of the hunting woods my effective range is half due to excitement, awkward shooting position, extra hunting clothes etc etc .  It is amazing to hear these ranges listed now and how many guys after season will say "  I can't believe I missed my elk at 30 yards ! "   

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2017, 07:25:09 PM »
To find your maximum hunting range, find your maximum target range and subtract about 20-25
yards, that is your realistic maximum hunting range under hunting conditions.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2017, 08:36:35 PM »
I practice to 80 but in the real world of the hunting woods my effective range is half due to excitement, awkward shooting position, extra hunting clothes etc etc .  It is amazing to hear these ranges listed now and how many guys after season will say "  I can't believe I missed my elk at 30 yards ! "   
To find your maximum hunting range, find your maximum target range and subtract about 20-25
yards, that is your realistic maximum hunting range under hunting conditions.
what a load of b.s.---if you are not practicing shooting your bow under "hunting" conditions you are setting yourself up for failure...why would you just stand at a range and shoot your bow once its sighted in for that distance without kneeling, sitting, canting your bow left or right to see where it will hit under actual shooting conditions ? obviously during the hunt you will have different circumstances that dictate your shooting position..but to just say that i can hit a target standing at 50 yards i should only shoot an animal at 25 yards due to "hunting conditions" is crazy...take the time to shoot at different angles and shooting positions...yes i have missed a shot at a deer at 40 yards due to the string striking my coat sleeve--but i've never worn that coat again bowhunting .  with todays modern bows if you practice with what you are to be hunting with there shouldn't be an issue with taking 50+ yard shots..as long as you can consistantly hit playing cards during your practice sessions you should be able to kill big game animals..if you only choose to shoot at big game at 30 yards or less more power to you...just keep an eye on cash & carry's meat sale flyer cuz you"re gonna need to stock up on it this winter
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2017, 07:21:02 AM »
People can be as upper cruster, jr erhics hunter, on a forum all day.  But the fact is that if someone is good at shooting tell 50, and have hunted for 5 days and see an elk at say 65.  There most likely going to take the shot.  Just like people that see big bucks hunting with a 3-9x40 at 500 yards and hold over.  Just saying that when people see big animals that they have worked so hard to get a shot at, the ethics range thing can change prettyyyy quick.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2017, 08:37:34 AM »
I am going to suggest that something will have to be done with regard to allowing unconstrained crossbow selection by disabled during Archery Seasons to rein in the technology.  There are now bows that are shooting 400 grain arrows out at 425 fps, allowing a maximum range of far in excess of what has been considered "archery range."

The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be.  You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status.  So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day? 

Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards. 

My crossbow is an Excalibur Matrix 355 and has about the same range 60 yards +- or about ten more than I feel comfortable with shooting my compound bow at game.  I suppose that it could be stretched out to the same range some here are comfortable shooting, but not to 125 yards, not by a long shot.  It has the accuracy, it is possible to shoot inch groups at 50 yards on a calm day off a bench.  It is the functional equivalent of pretty much any compound on the market.  I use it during modern rifle season when hunting populated areas, I use my compound just as often during Modern Season. 


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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2017, 03:21:50 PM »
I say shoot what you think your limitations are. And I hope you put in the effort searching for the animal when your shot goes south. At least your not asking about using an AR.
I wish people put in as much time learning how to track, spot blood etc as they do streaching out their distance.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2017, 03:53:43 PM »
I say shoot what you think your limitations are. And I hope you put in the effort searching for the animal when your shot goes south. At least your not asking about using an AR.
I wish people put in as much time learning how to track, spot blood etc as they do streaching out their distance.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2017, 05:30:23 PM »
and back to the topic....

53 yards, the same as it is every year.
How long til elk season?!??

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2017, 05:37:23 PM »
Shot at an archery shoot this weekend.  Deadly at 77 yards.  :tup:
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2017, 06:12:44 PM »

The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be.  You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status.  So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day? 

Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards. 

Can you ecplain what the archery season was "intended to be"? And how exactly we crossbow users during archery season are changing that. I read through the posts and no where were crossbows mentioned so im interested to hear why this was said. Maybe i read into it wrong and if so i appologize for it, just tired of everyone attacking the use of crossbows by diabled hunters for the continued pursuit of a lifelong passion.
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2017, 06:13:58 PM »

The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be.  You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status.  So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day? 

Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards. 

Can you ecplain what the archery season was "intended to be"? And how exactly we crossbow users during archery season are changing that. I read through the posts and no where were crossbows mentioned so im interested to hear why this was said. Maybe i read into it wrong and if so i appologize for it, just tired of everyone attacking the use of crossbows by diabled hunters for the continued pursuit of a lifelong passion.
This would be a great topic for another thread, I will start one in the archery section and then provide a link.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216682.msg2883876/topicseen.html#top
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 09:53:00 PM by Rainier10 »
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2017, 06:53:14 PM »
I shot great at 80 today and not so good at 40 so I guess I will have to let them walk away abit. :dunno:
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2017, 06:59:31 PM »
I shot great at 80 today and not so good at 40 so I guess I will have to let them walk away abit. :dunno:

My buddy does this with coyotes. Misses them all the time at 100 or so and then drills them at 300 :chuckle: He has to get them running and get them out there to kill them :chuckle:
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2017, 07:18:30 PM »

The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be.  You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status.  So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day? 

Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards. 

Can you ecplain what the archery season was "intended to be"? And how exactly we crossbow users during archery season are changing that. I read through the posts and no where were crossbows mentioned so im interested to hear why this was said. Maybe i read into it wrong and if so i appologize for it, just tired of everyone attacking the use of crossbows by diabled hunters for the continued pursuit of a lifelong passion.

Why would an arm, back or shoulder injury open the door to a scope when that is expressly ruled out for Archery Seasons? 

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2017, 09:59:30 PM »
I shot great at 80 today and not so good at 40 so I guess I will have to let them walk away abit. :dunno:
Actually had that conversation this weekend at a shoot. I was shooting the outside edge of the ten ring under forty and dead center of the ten ring at 60 plus. My buddy said you should only take 60 plus yard shots. It was a joke but kind of true. It's almost like I focus more at longer distances.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 03:15:03 PM by Rainier10 »
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2017, 01:36:56 AM »
I shoot better at 60 than 50.  I blame it on the bow :chuckle:

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2017, 09:40:31 AM »
More hunters need to attend a few 3d shoots. It is the most realistic practice a guy can have.
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2017, 11:41:35 PM »
I used to practice regularly at 80 and even worked out to 100. I feel practicing at that range makes you a better shot. You really have to focus on grip, anchor, release and follow through on ever shot. I set my personal long at no more than 45. I've Never had to shoot anything over 27 yards with 8 yrds being my short.
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2017, 09:50:36 AM »
Been pretty dialed in at 60 . I'll stick with that if conditions are good.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2017, 10:02:50 AM »
I generally practice out to 100 but really don't like shooting more than 65.  In my "old age" I find I've lost the drive to shoot longer.  Trying to get back to basics.  Heck, I only use hand calls for coyotes for the same reasons anymore....
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2017, 10:19:33 AM »
50 with perfect conditions and on open ground. 40 otherwise.
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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2017, 11:17:03 AM »
if it were today, 50, but I hope to bump that up to 60 by the opener. One of my hunting partners killed a deer at 95 last September. These new bows are sweet.

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Re: Maximum Effective Range...Archery Gear...28 July 2017?
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2017, 12:25:24 PM »
I practice to 80 but in the real world of the hunting woods my effective range is half due to excitement, awkward shooting position, extra hunting clothes etc etc .  It is amazing to hear these ranges listed now and how many guys after season will say "  I can't believe I missed my elk at 30 yards ! "

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