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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2017, 11:25:56 AM »
First pic is whitetail,pic two and three are mule deer.It looks like a case of mule deer and white tail mixed together in the same area to me,and different deer to me. :twocents:

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2017, 03:22:27 PM »
first picture is a whitetail that rack is 100% whitetail buck. I did shoot a cross in eastern Montana that had a perfect whitetail rack and a muley body. Either way everything about the first pic says whitetail

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2017, 03:23:57 PM »
You can't just go by the antlers, there is such thing as 3 point mule deer too.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2017, 03:31:57 PM »
You can't just go by the antlers, there is such thing as 3 point mule deer too.
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2017, 03:38:07 PM »
You can't just go by the antlers, there is such thing as 3 point mule deer too.
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the first picture I would call the right side a 5 point?  I count eye guards on whitetails but not mule deer and that is a whitetail. I have shot and seen 3 point mule deer not sure of your point there.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2017, 04:01:50 PM »
Picture 001 and 002 are the same deer - both mule deer.
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2017, 04:24:46 PM »
I've heard a few stories of a small pocket of whitetail on bald mountain years ago. Maybe some of those genes got mixed in with the recovering muley population.  What happened to the deer population in Nile/Bumping/Naches?  I'm seeing deer but nothing like I'd expect with the regulations and the habitat. 

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2017, 05:21:31 PM »
Picture 001 and 002 are the same deer - both mule deer.
Look at the face and the ears.  Clear as day. :tup:
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2017, 05:25:00 PM »
I've heard a few stories of a small pocket of whitetail on bald mountain years ago. Maybe some of those genes got mixed in with the recovering muley population.  What happened to the deer population in Nile/Bumping/Naches?  I'm seeing deer but nothing like I'd expect with the regulations and the habitat.
that heard has never fully recovered from the winter kills of the 90's. Combine that with poaching, native pressure, predators, human encroachment and mismanagement.
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2017, 07:55:30 PM »
I'd say pic 1 is a WT, 2 & 3 are mule. The antlers tell the tale. Harder to tell at this point, but number 1 clearly, to me anyways, has the points originating off the main beam. 2 and 3 are the BT/Muley w points forking.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2017, 08:12:57 PM »
When there are only 3 don't they all originate from a main beam? I've seen quite a few three point Muleys over there years that had very whitetailesg antlers
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2017, 08:20:02 PM »
Picture 001 and picture 001 are the slaw deer.
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2017, 11:15:59 AM »
that is a whitetail. I spotted a whitetail doe on the west bound off ramp of I90 exit #25 last fall. I emailed the game boys with no response.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2017, 11:17:15 AM »
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2017, 11:26:42 AM »
Picture 001 and picture 001 are the slaw deer.


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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2017, 12:40:33 PM »
Picture 001 and picture 001 are the slaw deer.


You forget to breath for a few minutes?  :o

LMAO.  That may have been Busch Light Fueled.  Correction:  Picture 001 and Picture 002 are the same deer.
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2017, 12:51:21 PM »
Pic 1 & 2 appear to be the same and probably a whitey, based off the eyeguards. 3 appears to be muley.
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2017, 12:57:34 PM »
I was hoping for more pics, but since my cameras are in the Norse Peak Fire no-go zone I may have to wait until late season or spring.  At least he lives another year to grow some more. 

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2017, 01:44:08 PM »

#1's Antlers sure looks like the Whitetails we shoot every fall in 111.  Light colored coat, but no white on the belly and inner legs...  I'm saying Whuley?

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2017, 02:54:24 PM »
I think they are all mule deer. Antlers don't mean chit.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2017, 05:02:16 PM »
I think they are all mule deer. Antlers don't mean chit.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2017, 06:23:51 PM »
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2017, 06:38:45 PM »
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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2017, 06:50:32 PM »
Mule deer with possible blacktail mix. Killed several in the 346 that look just like him.

Hair lice has also contributed to the decline of the deer herd in the area. Been in the area for around ten years or better now.

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Re: White Tail or Muley?
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2017, 08:07:44 PM »
that is a whitetail.

 

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