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New sight that is WA Legal?
« on: August 11, 2017, 12:16:47 PM »
Was surfing around and found this.

https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/optics/sights/see-all-open-sight-delta-triangle-sight.html

I called and talked to the company and seems like it is indeed wa legal according to them. I reviewed the rules with them and this sight has no glass it's all plastic. Has fiber optic or tritium "depending on the model you get".

It does not magnify any part of the target just the cross hairs them selves. The rules say no telescopic sight so that's the only thing that makes me wonder, yet the target is not magnified.

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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 12:20:14 PM »
I have had the opportunity to use one of these on a shotgun. I would say they arnt that much better than fiber optics. The real up side is on a defensive shot gun or a longer barrel that has no pin to get hung up on stuff.

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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 01:18:21 PM »
YES I talked to them on the phone myself and they said WA legal.

So even though they said they are im still not 100% hopefully bigtex or someone else might know for sure.
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 01:42:13 PM »
They don't use batteries or magnify so I can't see why not.

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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 01:47:16 PM »
They do magnify there own crosshairs? So I don't know if that falls under the telescopic sight rule.
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 01:49:21 PM »
If it meets all the following requirements it should be legal in Washington:

"(b) Sights must be open, peep, or of other open sight design. Fiber optic sights are legal. Telescopic sights or sights containing glass are prohibited."
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 01:52:55 PM »
It has a pretty high percentage of negative reviews.


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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 02:02:40 PM »
Yeah I'm not sure. I personally shoot reflex type sights way better then standard irons. So I like the idea of their aiming points and if a guy gets the tritium model then in dark timber or low light I can see it having a advantage over just plain stock type fiber optics.
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 10:48:06 AM »
It contains glass and personally I would say it was illegal.  But I'm not interested in "interpretations" of what he law says....pretty much black and white and I don't push limits on what is not allowed.

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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2017, 11:05:54 AM »
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2017, 11:23:24 AM »
It contains glass and personally I would say it was illegal.  But I'm not interested in "interpretations" of what he law says....pretty much black and white and I don't push limits on what is not allowed.

It does not contain glass only plastic and fiber optic. No glass

I spoke to my local warden yesterday and he said he looked into them and did not see anything that would make him say that they were not legal to use.
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2017, 03:04:05 PM »
I wouldn't risk it. They might be legal, but do you want to spend the money on a lawyer if a WDFW enforcement officer and prosecutor disagree with the manufacturer on interpretation of the law?  :dunno: :twocents:

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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2017, 10:04:53 PM »
I wouldn't risk it. They might be legal, but do you want to spend the money on a lawyer if a WDFW enforcement officer and prosecutor disagree with the manufacturer on interpretation of the law?  :dunno: :twocents:

From what I see it looks like it would be legal. I have met several game wardens over the years and they seemed to be good honest people. I really don't think a warden would ticket a guy for using this sight unless there is something about it they can cite as illegal in the law?
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Re: New sight that is WA Legal?
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2017, 11:19:27 PM »
I talked with the company, muzzleloads.com guys and my local warden all say good to go. I'm going to see how it does.
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