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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #75 on: August 12, 2017, 09:35:56 PM »
I like to hunt and fish. If I'm not hunting and fishing I like talking about it. The left vs right, east vs west is BS and been going on for a while. Focus on what you have in common rather what you don't. I have my opinions on certain things and have expressed them in disagreement with others, it doesn't mean I don't respect their opinion. I can't say I've received the same courtesy back. I check bones picks, hirshey's hunting stories, lokie's fishing stories and pics. Have had help with several auto projects from coach and others on here. Have hauled stuff across the state for a few members, sent a few new hunters and fishers to succesful spots. If I wanted politics or which side of the state grows bigger peckers, I would go to a site that specializes in that garbage.  Mostly just jump in to check classifieds anymore because this site has deviated from what I was looking for when I joined. I will say I have met some great people through here.
My woodpeckers are totally the biggest.  :chuckle:
I think many of the great people on here are still interacting just far less openly on the forums and more behind the scenes.
 The awesome people are still here just a little quieter I think.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2017, 09:37:37 PM »
I like to hunt and fish. If I'm not hunting and fishing I like talking about it. The left vs right, east vs west is BS and been going on for a while. Focus on what you have in common rather what you don't. I have my opinions on certain things and have expressed them in disagreement with others, it doesn't mean I don't respect their opinion. I can't say I've received the same courtesy back. I check bones picks, hirshey's hunting stories, lokie's fishing stories and pics. Have had help with several auto projects from coach and others on here. Have hauled stuff across the state for a few members, sent a few new hunters and fishers to succesful spots. If I wanted politics or which side of the state grows bigger peckers, I would go to a site that specializes in that garbage.  Mostly just jump in to check classifieds anymore because this site has deviated from what I was looking for when I joined. I will say I have met some great people through here.
My woodpeckers are totally the biggest.  :chuckle:
I think many of the great people on here are still interacting just far less openly on the forums and more behind the scenes.
 The awesome people are still here just a little quieter I think.

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« Reply #77 on: August 12, 2017, 10:42:53 PM »
Not friendly people. Tried helping over the years got burnt out.  Rick

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #78 on: August 12, 2017, 10:46:08 PM »
The forum as a lot of good info. I listen to learn !

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« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2017, 01:11:17 AM »
I think a lot of it for me is the is the constant bashing. I seen a lot of folks come in and ask for advice or help on something and they get steam rolled because they don't have enough post under their names. I have been a member on here for quite some time and visit almost daily. As some have said I am more of a listener than a talker, or in this case more of a reader than a typist.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2017, 07:46:58 AM »
One thing a forum like this has over other social media is you could go to Africa and kill Cecil the lion, post a bunch of pics here - and not worry about death threats, or even any negativity on your success topic for that matter. 

Negativity on success topics is already against the forum rules and we'll crush it each and every time we find it; and if we don't find it please hit the report to moderator button and half a dozen mods will be there in mere minutes.


1. Maybe this stance should be used for all the topics :dunno:

2. "Report to moderator" I have never used this, I can usually roll with anything and just ignore some of the off replies.  Does this get used much?  I believe it may help to improve things if more folks took advantage of it, maybe a "Report to Mod-Please use it" campaign to get more folks familiar with it and use it. Then if certain members are showing a trend of negativity, name calling, nit picking, etc. use the 3 strikes rule.
1st a warning, 2nd give them a short vacation, 3rd time, send them packing for good. Sounds kind of harsh, but this is what I believe is needed....Got to pull the weeds from the garden if you want the good stuff to grow.

3. Pictures, we all like them, but seems a lot are worried about GPS tags giving away their locations. Is there anything in the help areas that explain how to keep these off your pics? Either way, this help needs to be more easily accessible for folks. Or is there a way the forum could be set up to do it automatically with any pic posted?
  Nit picking of photos should be handled asap.....again 3 strikes rule....... Got to pull some more weeds.

4. Off Topics, Very rarely post there, but is a good place to "learn" about other members  :chuckle:. 3 strikes rule in OT too IMO.  This should remove quite a few more weeds  ;)

5. Maybe add a couple more Mods, or give the current ones Thors hammer.  :violent1:
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6. Garden will be weed free soon, we reap what we sow.  :twocents: :twocents:


Well put as always Nock Nock.

 I've got a lot more posts than some guys do that have been here as long or longer and a lot less than others. I guess it has happened slowly but reflecting back, the site has gone South with negative posts and responses along with the nitpicking.  If there isn't moderation of OT I probably need to opt out of it and ignore it.  In my opinion the language and innuendos by a small group of guys is out of control. 

I have thoroughly enjoyed posts with story's of OIL tags as well as well written posts of a hunt they had.  I have bought lots of gear and weapons from great people from this site off of the classifieds. 

I love the idea of the three strikes.  If your parents didn't teach you a simple rule of "If you can't say anything nice don't say it at all" then there is not much hope for you.

I have admittedly been sucked in a couple of times in OT by one member.  This current site evaluation makes me realize I need to simply not go there ever again.  Lesson learned.

A sincere "Thank You" to Bearpaw and all the Mod's for your time and dedication to this site.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2017, 08:12:37 AM »
Wow, what a thread!

Thanks Bone for starting it.

There is a ton of great input here. If you agree with someone's post in here please chime in. I just read the entire thread and there are definitely certain things that keep coming up. That really helps understand what issues to address first.

Thanks to everyone that has replied and please keep the replies coming.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2017, 08:15:06 AM »
I post occasionally and comment where I feel appropriate but with all of the knowledgeable folks on here mainly sit back and learn. Our hunting group still goes to our yearly camp but as most are in our mid 70s+ we don't hunt like the young bucks.  As far as the Off Topics section goes, it is what it is and keep the flaming there! I know it gets heated but that is where I go for my daily chuckles, we could stop the name calling though. 

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2017, 08:18:47 AM »
Great thread! If people want others to post then be respectful and encouraging to others, Not critical and jealous.
Most of my friends have either stopped posting or just do not look on here anymore. Because of that, there have been some great stories and photos taken that will not to on here.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #84 on: August 13, 2017, 08:44:57 AM »
First of all I'm sure I have been that jack wagon that is being talked about at least a few times.  :rolleyes:

But I try to think about a post for a few seconds anymore before posting, it helps to keep stupid things from being said.

And yes I've been less active myself do to the negativity that has flourished of lately, I'm remember when I joined its was a lot more friendly, and informative then now.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #85 on: August 13, 2017, 09:04:18 AM »
Great thread! If people want others to post then be respectful and encouraging to others, Not critical and jealous.
Most of my friends have either stopped posting or just do not look on here anymore. Because of that, there have been some great stories and photos taken that will not to on here.

I hope in conversation you can tell them we are trying our hardest to fix things and they will rethink it and come back.

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« Reply #86 on: August 13, 2017, 09:08:26 AM »
I will sometimes appear as a "lurker" only for the fact my phone isn't signed into my account. Only my tablet and computer are.

So, ya, people who view but don't post, come on! We'd love to see some of your stories, or even just hear them if you are concerned about your secret spots!

Its a great community for the most part. Come join the fun.
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« Reply #87 on: August 13, 2017, 09:12:38 AM »


 Basically if we all stop posting then there really isn't a forum, or it's a forum with just crap posts.  Simple analogy, if everyone is eating the candy from the dish but no one is filling the dish, the dish isn't going to stay full long.   I plan on trying my best to listen to everyone's points here.   I've been here since day 3 or something like that.  I've seen a lot of folks come and go and some come back.  I'm pretty proud of our family here.

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« Reply #88 on: August 13, 2017, 09:31:58 AM »
As a longtime lurker, I appreciate the forum. It's been a resource kind  of like Google earth or Rokslide or Washington Trails so I can explore (or think about) new areas in Washington.  I actually don't spend much time hunting or fishing like some members because of my family and job commitments, so I live vicariously through others adventures!

Like some have said, I am more of a listener than a talker.  If I had more to offer, then I might post more.
Only last year and this year have I sought advice since I drew some tags and I wanted to maximize my chances of success.  However, I realize that this forum exists because members contribute, so I will try to do so even if it's just by way of low quality digiscope pics or quick stories of my daughter's success!
I do agree as some have said that sometimes rare posters, i.e., "lurkers" asking for help seem shunned.  I get it in part, " taking and not giving."   However,  I can also say that some members have been quite helpful and welcoming . HW should stay inviting because the success of blogs and forums, etc relies on the site being visited.
 
There are pay offs for HW that may not be apparent by a members number of posts. For instance, I never expected that I would spend some cash for info on where to find spring turkey, but I did so 2 years ago.  Bear Paws info allowed me to find a spring turkey for my daughter; for me, it was money well spent! 

Realize too that by keeping me interested in hunting and fishing, I share that enthusiasm with friends; now one such friend and his daughter are shooting bow and taking their hunters safety course. If they decide they want to hunt, I'll invite them. They will likely become HW members. That's a kind of "pay it forward" situation in my book.
So those are my two cents.

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« Reply #89 on: August 13, 2017, 09:43:51 AM »


 Basically if we all stop posting then there really isn't a forum, or it's a forum with just crap posts.  Simple analogy, if everyone is eating the candy from the dish but no one is filling the dish, the dish isn't going to stay full long.   I plan on trying my best to listen to everyone's points here.   I've been here since day 3 or something like that.  I've seen a lot of folks come and go and some come back.  I'm pretty proud of our family here.

 Restock the candy dish with some posts   :yeah:

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« Reply #90 on: August 13, 2017, 09:44:20 AM »
I've been on the site over nine years. I don't post near as much I could or should. It goes in spurts, I took a couple year break from the site at one point in the middle but have been back on pretty consistently the past few years.

My biggest gripe is from the few whackadoodles on here who I'm pretty sure don't hunt or fish or do much outdoors but just come on here to spread tinfoil nonsense.

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« Reply #91 on: August 13, 2017, 11:03:42 AM »
I am in the boat as most of the comments.  I rarely chime in and dont think i even posted any of my hunts or pics from last year.  It got to the place as most have said that right off the bat it goes sideways.  Just not worth the time,

I found this site several years ago when i drew my moose tag via google.  And yes my first posts were for help with an OIL tag.  And yeah got nailed for it.  Kinda was taken aback frankly.  Did get two on here that via pm got me dialed in and i took if from there and took a pretty good bull. 

I think the crap we are all describing is part of the cultural decline we see in general.  Some of it i also think is generational.  Not sure we can fix that.  Maybe a general reminder on occasion to all would not be a bad idea. 

And maybe for new members when they sign up they get an auto-message on suggested edicate  and what to expect if they ask for help before the 100th post.

I consider myself a pretty sage and experienced hunter and think have a lot to offer to those that have not got the grey hair and miles on the boots as i.  I do my share of killing.  There are a lot of us here that are the same. So it is their loss i guess that they turn us off from contributing more than what some of us do.   

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« Reply #92 on: August 13, 2017, 11:29:14 AM »
This year I offered a member help with youth turkey ,seeing his posts that he would be in the same area hunting as me and my son.Then I post my opening mourning story,of my son and me hunting,and get rude comment from him.


So after that I will never pm , or help another hunter,unless I meet them in person first.

The first year I was on here I posted harvest photos,but not anymore,and with trail cams I try not to post them anymore,to many internet police wanting to throw the reg book at you.

I'm one of the most disliked members for being outspoken,or for really saying how I feel about topics that come up on the forum.But if everybody agree on topic,or doesn't share there point of view, not much of a forum if you can't express your opinion.
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« Reply #93 on: August 13, 2017, 11:30:21 AM »
Seem to recall that photo police weren't really too much of an issue until one member posted a success pic with a deer and his bow was in it with a flashlight attached.

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« Reply #94 on: August 13, 2017, 11:37:12 AM »
I remember that.  :bdid:
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« Reply #95 on: August 13, 2017, 11:48:36 AM »
I've pm'ed people and gave them advice on areas. Asked for help per pm'ing people that posted their knowledge about areas never heard a word back from either one. I kick it around to post pictures. But like most people said. Internet police looking to get 10pts (which won't help them anyways) had stopped me from that. My son wanted to post his first buck he took. Wouldn't do it cause I'm not gonna let him see the bashing and negativity that some grown men have.

I'm all for talking hunting and fishing and everyone gonna have different point of view. That's what makes this country great. But when it goes from that to some guy miss reading it and trying to say you did this or that illegal. No thanks. I'll just stay logged out and lurk.  I can give great advice on where some animals are. I spend 6 months out in the woods cause my wife and job allows it. But the negativity stops that.

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« Reply #96 on: August 13, 2017, 12:06:14 PM »
           We all have a love of Hunting. I have always enjoyed looking at animals, equipment and reading stories. Seems that we all want to enjoy others posts, but as soon as a 'negative' post comes out it becomes open season not only for the original post but all over the negative as well. Posting to say good job or thanks for sharing seems to have become more rare over time.
           Maybe, we all should go back to our roots of the love of the hunt and enjoy that we have a place where kindred spirits can come together and share experiences both good and bad.

             

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« Reply #97 on: August 13, 2017, 12:37:13 PM »
If someone posts an image with clearly illegal behavior, wouldn't you prefer to hear about it here first rather than from an enforcement officer? Lots of hunters violate game laws unintentionally. Many of the so called "internet police" are really trying to help in certain cases, as I see it.
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« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2017, 12:44:11 PM »
If someone posts an image with clearly illegal behavior, wouldn't you prefer to hear about it here first rather than from an enforcement officer? Lots of hunters violate game laws unintentionally. Many of the so called "internet police" are really trying to help in certain cases, as I see it.

 :yeah: I agree, I think in many cases people are trying to help and it gets misinterpreted.
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« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2017, 12:44:36 PM »
I had to think about this one for a minute and still was unable to conclude why I don't post.  I suppose putting a face with a name might help.  Time to start meeting folks and contributing to this pretty amazon place.