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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2017, 10:26:09 PM »
Any actual facts?  Call me old fashioned I guess.


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Temporary gates put up with signs saying roads closed. Usfs website shows what forest service roads are closed.

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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2017, 10:34:44 PM »
This may clear-up the question of whether WDFW can do a closure under emergency rule, or at least this looks like it does...again, not talking about closing an area they do not own to access, but authorizing it being closed to the act of hunting.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-111-010

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.150
If If want to hunt coyote in this GMU how would I know it is closed to hunting? On what authority could I be charged?

I would guess the same way that they are letting people know about returning permits, etc., but once again, I am sorry that I have made this such a hot issue and a target for nit-picking each and every minute and some what pointless detail beyond what has been said time and time again...no where was it stated hunting was, had or is going to be shut down, today, yesterday or tomorrow.

But to summarize:

1. Some people were saying a gmu was closed. 
2. Some people were questioning how a gmu could be closed. Focusing or fixatating on access being what was closed and questioning how that could be if there were parcels of private property whitin the boundary.
3. An additional possible option, explanation, idea, theory...pick whatever word works, as to how a gmu could be closed was offered, nothing more, nothing less.

I appologize for even trying to add to the discussion, as it clearly turned into a point of contention, seemingly like I was stating as fact that is what has happened/is happening.

Maybe I used too many words, clearly I used some of the wrong words in previous posts which resulted in way more focus on those particular line items and the result it seems was the initial intent was lost, ignored or it was just used as an excuse to nit-pick at something, anything...

This is one of the biggest downsides to conversations using typed responses vs actual, live, verbal conversations.  Not every one can read and interrupt writings the exact same way as others, and this is the type of fallout that results.


Good luck to those who choose to keep their permits, I hope that it works in your favor and you are successful, to the ones turning in their permits, sorry to see you have to make a tough call like that and I hope you do just as well or even better this season and get a chance in next years draw to recapture what you had to give up this year.


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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2017, 06:18:38 AM »
That is huntwa at times, but I'm here to say we have a camp in the nile and a guy who is and has been hunting the 346 all week including yesterday.  He hasn't been told to leave, they did have a barricade with someone standing by at milk creek and other roads, but they are letting hunters in.  Except, the 1900 rd is closed.  I think it was only good intentions when someone said it was closed, that's how I look at it anyway.
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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2017, 09:33:51 AM »
This may clear-up the question of whether WDFW can do a closure under emergency rule, or at least this looks like it does...again, not talking about closing an area they do not own to access, but authorizing it being closed to the act of hunting.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-111-010

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.150
If If want to hunt coyote in this GMU how would I know it is closed to hunting? On what authority could I be charged?

I would guess the same way that they are letting people know about returning permits, etc., but once again, I am sorry that I have made this such a hot issue and a target for nit-picking each and every minute and some what pointless detail beyond what has been said time and time again...no where was it stated hunting was, had or is going to be shut down, today, yesterday or tomorrow.

But to summarize:

1. Some people were saying a gmu was closed. 
2. Some people were questioning how a gmu could be closed. Focusing or fixatating on access being what was closed and questioning how that could be if there were parcels of private property whitin the boundary.
3. An additional possible option, explanation, idea, theory...pick whatever word works, as to how a gmu could be closed was offered, nothing more, nothing less.

I appologize for even trying to add to the discussion, as it clearly turned into a point of contention, seemingly like I was stating as fact that is what has happened/is happening.

Maybe I used too many words, clearly I used some of the wrong words in previous posts which resulted in way more focus on those particular line items and the result it seems was the initial intent was lost, ignored or it was just used as an excuse to nit-pick at something, anything...

This is one of the biggest downsides to conversations using typed responses vs actual, live, verbal conversations.  Not every one can read and interrupt writings the exact same way as others, and this is the type of fallout that results.


Good luck to those who choose to keep their permits, I hope that it works in your favor and you are successful, to the ones turning in their permits, sorry to see you have to make a tough call like that and I hope you do just as well or even better this season and get a chance in next years draw to recapture what you had to give up this year.




I guess you missed the part where I said I was not trying to argue....just asking legit questions trying to clarify what you were saying.
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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2017, 11:50:12 AM »
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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2017, 01:12:33 PM »
Could it not be possible that the FS closed their land or a portion of it in that forest or area to all access and recreation, thus in turn shutting down hunting?  Or at least hunting on their land?  That wouldn't have been the WDFW shutting down hunting themselves but would affect hunting.  And if WDFW didn't shut down hunting they may not have it listed on their website because they haven't closed hunting (could still be allowed on private land, state land, etc). 

Landowner sets the rules and opens/closes land as they see fit.  At that point access points would be marked with signage and/or be temporarily barricaded.  People should be checking on landowner restrictions (private timber land, NF land, State Land, etc) every bit as much as they should be checking on WDFW restrictions.  Generally access is closed by landowner, not hunting closed by WDFW.  :twocents:

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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2017, 09:10:49 PM »
As far as white river goes besides Hancock. Every road off 410 is blocked and manned all the way to get 123. Even the entrances to the park.  So I am guessing that means no access across the board. Hunting or otherwise
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Re: White river gmu closed
« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2017, 09:26:38 PM »
Looks like there is some privately owned properties near Buckley.
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