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Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« on: September 13, 2017, 04:11:13 PM »
So, if I buy all of my beef for the year at once from Cash and Carry, I can spend approx. $400 and get 5 chuck rolls or roughly 120lbs of trimmed beef.  The way I butcher them, this will yield:

10-12 chuck roasts (36lbs) Good for one pot roast per month
8-10 2 person packages of chuck eye steaks (20lb) Good for a nice steak dinner for my wife and I about once a month
4 packages of stew meat (8lbs) Winter months food
4 packages of chili meat (8lbs) Winter months food
30 packages of burger (45lbs) We use burger the most.  This is about 18-20 meals worth, maybe twice a month

So basically I'm looking at about 5-6 beef meals per month for the whole year, most of which will have leftovers.




Now my question is, how much is the avg. side of beef and how many lbs of trimmed meat would I get for that price?  I understand on a side of beef, I get some better cuts but honestly, better cuts aren't as valuable to me as just basic, rustic beef dinners. 

In your opinion, would it be better to buy 5 chuck rolls or a side of beef (price depending)?  I'm not even sure how much a side of beef costs.

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 04:17:31 PM »
Here's rough costs for a side (1/2) of beef:

Hanging 1/2 - Figure 400lb @ $2.50/lb = $1,000
Cut & Wrap .45/lb. @ 400lb = $180

Grand Total = $1,180.

YMMV on the Per Pound cost of meat, but that's a rough figure.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 04:20:16 PM »
Bear in mind, you aren't getting 400lbs of meat from that 1/2.

You'll probably yield 300 lbs.

So $1,180/300 = $3.93/lb
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2017, 04:23:04 PM »
So if your $400/120# = $3.33/lb

You are paying 0.60 more for the 1/2 beef, but you will likely get better meat, and more selections of cuts.

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2017, 04:47:06 PM »
Shouldn't you add a kill fee? $75-$100.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2017, 06:14:40 PM »
Shouldn't you add a kill fee? $75-$100.


That's included in the hanging price.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2017, 06:47:08 PM »
Double I'm not going to comment on the math. But I bought a side 2 yrs ago and got a bunch of stuff I didn't even recognize and/or was crappy.
I'm not sure I'll do another half unless I can get a better handle on the butcher.
I know you already love the Chuck, so I'd probably stick with that and you know what you are getting and in exactly the amounts.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2017, 06:50:52 PM »
For the record, I think your chuck rolls are a good deal. They give you multiple options as well.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 07:17:44 PM »
For the record, I think your chuck rolls are a good deal. They give you multiple options as well.

That's what I was thinking too but I just wanted to know what I might be missing out on.  Besides, when I catch it on sale, I can get strip loins for $4.25/lb there too for when I want something more fancy
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 07:23:47 PM »
Only downside is you don't know the source. Sides are usually locally sourced and support the local farming  community.

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 07:40:28 PM »
Shouldn't you add a kill fee? $75-$100.


That's included in the hanging price.

Not all butchers add that in. Mine charges kill fee, plus cut and wrap.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 07:45:10 PM »
I raise my own beef, with all that goes into it I wouldn't sell for less than $5 a pound, and you pay for cut and wrap, plus your part of the kill fee. ;)
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 08:05:21 PM »
Shouldn't you add a kill fee? $75-$100.


That's included in the hanging price.

Not all butchers add that in. Mine charges kill fee, plus cut and wrap.

That's a price I've charged in that past. When you're killing 20 a year, the kill man cuts you a deal.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 08:06:22 PM »
For the record, I think your chuck rolls are a good deal. They give you multiple options as well.

That's what I was thinking too but I just wanted to know what I might be missing out on.  Besides, when I catch it on sale, I can get strip loins for $4.25/lb there too for when I want something more fancy

I'm not sure you can really beat what you doing, DoubleJ.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2017, 08:34:34 PM »
I wish there was a way I could buy a cow, or half a cow, have the carcass loaded into my truck, and let me cut it up myself at home for a lower price
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2017, 08:37:15 PM »
There absolutely is a way.
Find someone that has beef over by you. Buy a half, show up when they kill and have the butcher load it in your rig. Take it home and go to work.
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 08:47:36 PM »
There's places here in the Yakima valley that do that. My grandma (dad's mom) had a farm for many years and she would sell cows on the spot if someone paid cash. You show up, kill it, butcher it and clean up your mess. :tup:
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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 08:51:45 PM »
I raise my own beef, with all that goes into it I wouldn't sell for less than $5 a pound, and you pay for cut and wrap, plus your part of the kill fee. ;)

So you raise it to butcher just for yourself/family/friends?

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 09:38:28 PM »
I wish there was a way I could buy a cow, or half a cow, have the carcass loaded into my truck, and let me cut it up myself at home for a lower price

My cow is pregnant.  Call me in 2 years and you may hear about a steer for sell.  :tup:

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 09:49:22 PM »
You're getting a good deal on your chuck rolls.  My input is don't get a side of beef unless those extra cuts matter to you.  Or if you wanted to get something different, ie grass fed, prime rating, etc.

If going for a side of beef, get to know your local farmers that are raising them.  Plan in advance.  Some butcher their own, and some send to a butcher.   I'm not as familiar with WA, but I worked on cattle ranches for 7 years in Oregon early in my life and you can find some good deals on a side of beef by getting to know the rancher/farmers in your area well. 

Another option is get to know a farmer and buy a feeder cow to finish at their farm.  You can work out all sorts of rents/barters when you get to know folks.   Buy feeder stock for much lower prices and raise them on somebody elses land and your costs really drop.  Heck, some of the beef we got in my youth was bartering services with folks raising cows.   Building fences, barns, etc.  We did all sorts of work for free beef.  And reading your prior posts on chuck rolls, you are quite adept at the butchering and packaging process.   So, there are other avenues.  But from what I can tell, your current process is working fine. 



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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2017, 11:13:43 PM »
Go to the Toppenish auction and bring 1 home :dunno:

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2017, 11:22:33 PM »
The best way to do it is buy cryovac primals and cut them your self if you can hanging beef if you don't use every thing including the bones is not wroth the money just my thoughts i have been cutting meat for about 36 years

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 11:36:32 PM »
Or get 3 800 lbs steers the owner can't take care of. Then haul them to Toppenish. They will be there pretty soon.

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2017, 07:58:01 AM »
Never been a big fan of buying the side of beef.  Usually don't save much money and is hit or miss with the quality. 

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Re: Need someone that can do beef math for me (price of beef)
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2017, 09:18:53 AM »
I raise my own beef and usually use something like this to determine finished product.