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Offline konradcountry

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2017, 08:55:27 PM »
So, you don't believe that governments can become a threat to their people when the people are disarmed? The 2nd Amendment is not and was never about hunting. It's sole purpose was to ensure that individuals would be able to protect themselves from those wanting to do them harm, including and especially an oppressive government.

You are correct that it is is not about hunting but the US gov would lose a guerrilla war against its own people and bump stocks wouldn't matter.

There are too many crafty rednecks out there. A lot of them have military experience. They could have 3030s and they would still win. The US gov would cry uncle within a few weeks.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2017, 08:57:20 PM »
a lot less then i was comfortable paying for it....what does it matter ?
It was always too much for me,gat crank is the poor man bump stock and may be legal after the ban of bump stock,you may always considering selling for a lot more than you paid the price on gun broker is going up.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=bump+fire
as i said before...opticsplanet.com has the solid stock for $160 but if you get the 6 position adjustable stock it is $190..just make sure when you buy it you buy either the left handed or right handed version....
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2017, 10:03:36 PM »
So, you don't believe that governments can become a threat to their people when the people are disarmed? The 2nd Amendment is not and was never about hunting. It's sole purpose was to ensure that individuals would be able to protect themselves from those wanting to do them harm, including and especially an oppressive government.

You are correct that it is is not about hunting but the US gov would lose a guerrilla war against its own people and bump stocks wouldn't matter.

There are too many crafty rednecks out there. A lot of them have military experience. They could have 3030s and they would still win. The US gov would cry uncle within a few weeks.
The last time crafty rednecks waged war against the United States they lost.Talking on the internet about the need to arm yourself for protection against the government seems neither wise nor crafty.Sounds more like a warning sign and a good way to get a knock on the door.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #78 on: October 05, 2017, 11:18:18 PM »

[/quote]The last time crafty rednecks waged war against the United States they lost.Talking on the internet about the need to arm yourself for protection against the government seems neither wise nor crafty.Sounds more like a warning sign and a good way to get a knock on the door.
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I don’t believe that stating the purpose of the second amendment is asking for a knock on the door. I for one will do everything I can to protect the second amendment and the constitution. Patriots need to be active in government and stand up against tyranny. The left will run you over and take your rights if you don’t stand up and fight. Hiding your guns and pretending you don’t have any and that you are complying only gives them more power.  :twocents:
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #79 on: October 05, 2017, 11:37:13 PM »
Thinking of the Hollywood government, not the government that is busy making power point slides all day in between their 22 minute smoke breaks.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2017, 12:01:56 AM »
That gun used was a belt fed auto and there was definitely more than one shooter. They literally expect us to believe that an ar platform made all that sound and so many kills. Yeah right.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2017, 05:54:24 AM »
So, you don't believe that governments can become a threat to their people when the people are disarmed? The 2nd Amendment is not and was never about hunting. It's sole purpose was to ensure that individuals would be able to protect themselves from those wanting to do them harm, including and especially an oppressive government.

You are correct that it is is not about hunting but the US gov would lose a guerrilla war against its own people and bump stocks wouldn't matter.

There are too many crafty rednecks out there. A lot of them have military experience. They could have 3030s and they would still win. The US gov would cry uncle within a few weeks.
The last time crafty rednecks waged war against the United States they lost.Talking on the internet about the need to arm yourself for protection against the government seems neither wise nor crafty.Sounds more like a warning sign and a good way to get a knock on the door.

You seriously need to study history and focus on the Constitution.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #82 on: October 06, 2017, 11:37:49 AM »
So, you don't believe that governments can become a threat to their people when the people are disarmed? The 2nd Amendment is not and was never about hunting. It's sole purpose was to ensure that individuals would be able to protect themselves from those wanting to do them harm, including and especially an oppressive government.

You are correct that it is is not about hunting but the US gov would lose a guerrilla war against its own people and bump stocks wouldn't matter.

There are too many crafty rednecks out there. A lot of them have military experience. They could have 3030s and they would still win. The US gov would cry uncle within a few weeks.
The last time crafty rednecks waged war against the United States they lost.Talking on the internet about the need to arm yourself for protection against the government seems neither wise nor crafty.Sounds more like a warning sign and a good way to get a knock on the door.

The government is going to knock on my door for discussing the point of the 2nd amendment? Well they can stop by for coffee if they want, I really don't care.

If the government turned against the people it would be nothing like the civil war. First of all half the military would not even report for duty.

But the main problem is that the US gov would have to maintain a modern economy while going after an insurgency. Even a few thousand rednecks in the woods with hunting rifles would bring the economy to a halt. The economy would go straight to a depression and the gov would have much bigger problems than trying to use apaches to hunt down rednecks in the woods.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2017, 04:48:37 AM »

Don't believe the AR Bump stock at all.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2017, 05:37:33 AM »
I truly believe you overestimate the desire and ability of a bunch of rednecks.  Everyone seems to think the scariest thing in the world is an American civilian with his rifle.  You seem to gloss right over thats the same American citizens you've been calling snowflakes and the Nintendo generation, etc for the last twenty five years. 

They might go to the woods for a couple of nights, but they wouldn't stay there and they wouldn't win a fight against the WA National Guard, let alone the active military.    Just my opinion.

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That rifle is the difference of him being a subject or a citizen.
If their were to be "illegal seizures" of weapons on a large scale, I do believe their would be quite a few of those National Guardsmen who would be on the other side.
The War of Independence was started and won by a bunch of Bubbas with their rifles.
Obviously it would take something so heinous to spark a rebellion that large.
Would taking away your the 1st amendment rights do it?
How about the 2nd?
The 4th?

Each of those is the difference between subjugation and freedom.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2017, 09:50:30 AM »
I truly believe you overestimate the desire and ability of a bunch of rednecks.  Everyone seems to think the scariest thing in the world is an American civilian with his rifle.  You seem to gloss right over thats the same American citizens you've been calling snowflakes and the Nintendo generation, etc for the last twenty five years. 

They might go to the woods for a couple of nights, but they wouldn't stay there and they wouldn't win a fight against the WA National Guard, let alone the active military.    Just my opinion.
According to the Dems, border patrol can't deport a million of the worst illegals because the whole country would stop functioning and nobody would produce food, groceries would dry up and the US would starve and go into a depression.  But sending every cop and military member out to round up guns from 120 million gun owners (assume only 10 million fully resist--China's entire military is only a little over 2 mil), it would be just like any other day and the Dems could read about it as a little byline in the news.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2017, 10:32:51 AM »
You assume it will all happen at once.  We can also look at Canada, the UK and Australia and find places where it happened very peacefully.

I would hesitate to say it is impossible.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2017, 02:40:54 PM »

Don't believe the AR Bump stock at all.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2017, 05:37:20 PM »
Based on this comment.........

So, you don't believe that governments can become a threat to their people when the people are disarmed? The 2nd Amendment is not and was never about hunting. It's sole purpose was to ensure that individuals would be able to protect themselves from those wanting to do them harm, including and especially an oppressive government.

I just wish someone on the news would ask the following.  No one ever injects this point into the conversation.

So by banning whatever, you're saying the forefathers intended for us to be outgunned technology wise at some point?  Way back then, the musket was state of the art.  So why is an AR or any weapon for that matter, auto or not, not protected under the 2nd?  Seems reasonable to assume that they didn't want an oppressive government to have far superior weapons to those of "the people". :twocents:
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #89 on: October 08, 2017, 06:05:12 PM »

Don't believe the AR Bump stock at all.
I don't think that video is using the real audio from Las Vegas. The video from the taxi had much less consistent gunfire.

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