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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2017, 10:58:22 PM »
Blacktail is one word.  Has different meaning as two words lol... :chuckle:

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 02:03:46 PM »
Love hunting the elusive blacktail.

Hunt when the weather is the worst.
Hunt your hardest the last few days of October.
Hunt all times of the day.
Watching a long stretch of closed road where I can see 3-400 yards has been successful. That or a good looking clearcut.
Look for sign. Blacktail love to do good little rub lines.

Don't get discouraged hunting these ghosts. You may go all season and not see anything, then come around the corner and a great buck will be standing there staring at you.

Good luck!

thanks man. last year i hunted with a guy who only wanted to hunt a couple hours in the morning. this year i am going solo and plan on up at 3. hanging by the tracks i saw to noon ish. then hiking to the top of the ridge and watching the clear cut. i found a nice spot. spent 9 hours scouting the cap forest and this place was the only place i saw tracks and poop... im pumped.  ill be out every weekend and then 4 days in the last part of the season in November.

Capitol Forest has no shortage of blacktails. 

They are used to people and that makes the mature bucks particularly difficult in a lot of ways.  They aren't usually "spooky" and as such will sit tight and let you almost step on them.  I was pheasant hunting on a release site once and jumped a real monster buck that was hiding out half submerged in a slough, he got hung up between me and my dogs and I am sure he would have let me walk past him, but what he wasn't prepared for was me walking down the slough in hip deep water.  I come round a bend and he exploded out of the water.  I have a more than one friend who had one go down on it's knees and try creeping past while screened by ferns and salal.   They absolutely do have the ability to move around to the side and behind and let most hunters just go right on by them w/o giving themselves away.

On the plus side these bucks that are used to a lot of human interaction sometimes think they are hidden when in fact they are not quite as stealthy as they think they are.  As long as they think they have not been detected they are more likely than not to sit tight.     

Blacktail bucks don't get to grow up into mature blacktail bucks by standing on the side of the road, or out in a clear cut in Cap Forest saying:  shoot me.  They rarely use the mountain bike or motorcycle trails or even the "major" deer trails.  But that doesn't mean they are not there, they almost exclusively use subsidiary trails.   You will find tracks on the former, but I think they were left at night. 

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 02:46:57 PM »
Blacktail is one word.  Has different meaning as two words lol... :chuckle:

I'll have to go back and re-read my comments. I know when I type on my phone or use speech-to-text it separates them... everyone is out there butchering animals and i am here butchering the English language!  :chuckle:

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 02:52:23 PM »
Love hunting the elusive blacktail.

Hunt when the weather is the worst.
Hunt your hardest the last few days of October.
Hunt all times of the day.
Watching a long stretch of closed road where I can see 3-400 yards has been successful. That or a good looking clearcut.
Look for sign. Blacktail love to do good little rub lines.

Don't get discouraged hunting these ghosts. You may go all season and not see anything, then come around the corner and a great buck will be standing there staring at you.

Good luck!

thanks man. last year i hunted with a guy who only wanted to hunt a couple hours in the morning. this year i am going solo and plan on up at 3. hanging by the tracks i saw to noon ish. then hiking to the top of the ridge and watching the clear cut. i found a nice spot. spent 9 hours scouting the cap forest and this place was the only place i saw tracks and poop... im pumped.  ill be out every weekend and then 4 days in the last part of the season in November.

Capitol Forest has no shortage of blacktails. 

They are used to people and that makes the mature bucks particularly difficult in a lot of ways.  They aren't usually "spooky" and as such will sit tight and let you almost step on them.  I was pheasant hunting on a release site once and jumped a real monster buck that was hiding out half submerged in a slough, he got hung up between me and my dogs and I am sure he would have let me walk past him, but what he wasn't prepared for was me walking down the slough in hip deep water.  I come round a bend and he exploded out of the water.  I have a more than one friend who had one go down on it's knees and try creeping past while screened by ferns and salal.   They absolutely do have the ability to move around to the side and behind and let most hunters just go right on by them w/o giving themselves away.

On the plus side these bucks that are used to a lot of human interaction sometimes think they are hidden when in fact they are not quite as stealthy as they think they are.  As long as they think they have not been detected they are more likely than not to sit tight.     

Blacktail bucks don't get to grow up into mature blacktail bucks by standing on the side of the road, or out in a clear cut in Cap Forest saying:  shoot me.  They rarely use the mountain bike or motorcycle trails or even the "major" deer trails.  But that doesn't mean they are not there, they almost exclusively use subsidiary trails.   You will find tracks on the former, but I think they were left at night.


thanks! yea after scouting my area I saw three does. came across droppings and tracks with no trail in sight. figure i will be in the woods for the most part of my mornings and above the clear cuts during the afternoon. found nice bedding areas  near my spot too... all real promising. Not looking for a trophy anything to stock my freezer... it will be my first tag ever so I'm glad it will be challenging.

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 02:57:24 PM »
Someone can chime in if they think I'm off here, but I would do vice versa. Be in those clear cuts an hour before light until about 11:00 and then still hunt the timber until about 2:30 or 3:00 before returning to the clear cut for the evening. If you have a heavily used travel route to and from the cuts, you can sit close to those in the timber as well.
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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 03:21:31 PM »
 :yeah:    I think that's a better plan 7mm, especially so for the opener, and depending on weather.  If it is foggy or raining, the deer may stay in the cuts all day, given adequate cover.  If it is clear and warming, which is what the forecast calls for here, I might give up on the reprod a little earlier.  Being flexible is important.  Don't get stuck to a plan just because you thought it up a few days prior.

The last few days of the month, I'd be looking for big bucks out cruising the woods above doe bedding areas between 10:00  AM and 3:00 PM.  But hey, what do I know?  Given my success rate, doing the opposite of what I do is probably the best move anyone could make!
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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2017, 03:47:39 PM »
Right oh. as I wrote that I was second guessing myself... they're bedding was in the woods.   :bash:

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2017, 04:15:54 PM »
I will add that while still hunting always look behind you now and then. I've had deer let me walk passed them and then get up and move out of the area. I've caught a few in the act, one being a nice 3x3 that was crawling away before he realized I had busted him then he jumped up and was gone. Didn't have time to get a shot off. That guy still haunts me.

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2017, 04:43:50 PM »
Someone can chime in if they think I'm off here, but I would do vice versa. Be in those clear cuts an hour before light until about 11:00 and then still hunt the timber until about 2:30 or 3:00 before returning to the clear cut for the evening. If you have a heavily used travel route to and from the cuts, you can sit close to those in the timber as well.

Could be.  The only real time I spend in Capitol Forest is in mid summer. 

And if that travel route is below a bedding area I would be really focused on watching it 

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2017, 05:28:07 PM »
Someone can chime in if they think I'm off here, but I would do vice versa. Be in those clear cuts an hour before light until about 11:00 and then still hunt the timber until about 2:30 or 3:00 before returning to the clear cut for the evening. If you have a heavily used travel route to and from the cuts, you can sit close to those in the timber as well.

Could be.  The only real time I spend in Capitol Forest is in mid summer. 

And if that travel route is below a bedding area I would be really focused on watching it

You're the Master Hunter, so correct me if I'm wrong.  My understanding of the situation:  Depending on the time of day -  as thermals kick in and start rising in the morning, you would expect cruising bucks to be downwind, (or uphill), of bedding areas.  In early morning or towards last light, when thermals are sinking/going downhill, then doe scent would hit the trails below the bedding area, and bucks would scent check below.

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Re: New Black tail Hunter
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2017, 05:44:52 PM »
Someone can chime in if they think I'm off here, but I would do vice versa. Be in those clear cuts an hour before light until about 11:00 and then still hunt the timber until about 2:30 or 3:00 before returning to the clear cut for the evening. If you have a heavily used travel route to and from the cuts, you can sit close to those in the timber as well.
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