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Possible poaching in the Bumping
« on: October 15, 2017, 07:41:45 AM »
Hi all,

Just got back from Muzzle hunting in the Bumping. Tag soup for our group..... some bulls were still bugling but would not come to the calls.

More concerning is we found (with our noses) 2 dead elk (5x1 and a spike) about 100 yards off of the Bumping road and about a 1/2 mile apart. Could clearly see what appeared to be a hole in the chest of the spike.

My camera is also in the area,... and attached is a pic of the 5x1.

Last year we found the remains of a spike that was shot at 2:00am (I was awake and heard the truck and the shot) right down from our camp on the Bumping road.... Report it = "No response".

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2017, 07:46:18 AM »
Darn. WDFW needs to set up decoys around here. I'm sure they'd get a few people shooting at it.
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 07:47:12 AM »
Poachers are everywhere. :bash:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 08:55:02 AM »
There are some decidedly UNsportsman like individuals frequenting the area.   The best defense of our reputations, resources and game is eyes open.   No tattle tales here,  but all facts and evidence turned over to LE.   

Plus the added bonus of draw points if you actually help catch the !@&$¥%!    We found three whole carcasses in the Natchez unit last year during modern.  Right off logging roads, been chewed on a bit but obviously down for a month or less.   

It seems I get license/game checked every year somewhere in the unit, but they can't be everywhere.   Take the "eyes in the woods" course In The off season.  With all these !explicative! In the woods your sure to get an easy ten point bump.

It was game cameras that caught a whole ring of them.  Read the Seattle times article that came out last week.  The public comments were disheartening
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2017, 10:10:17 AM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 10:29:05 AM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

That’s just silly talk. Any dead animal found must been poached.  :bash:

There are some decidedly UNsportsman like individuals frequenting the area.   The best defense of our reputations, resources and game is eyes open.   No tattle tales here,  but all facts and evidence turned over to LE.   

Plus the added bonus of draw points if you actually help catch the !@&$¥%!    We found three whole carcasses in the Natchez unit last year during modern.  Right off logging roads, been chewed on a bit but obviously down for a month or less.   

It seems I get license/game checked every year somewhere in the unit, but they can't be everywhere.   Take the "eyes in the woods" course In The off season.  With all these !explicative! In the woods your sure to get an easy ten point bump.

It was game cameras that caught a whole ring of them.  Read the Seattle times article that came out last week.  The public comments were disheartening

If it wasn’t for Oregon state police doing their jobs. That ring would still be out doing what they did. WDFW shouldn’t get a lick of credit for that bust. That was all Oregon that busted that case wide open. Just my  :twocents:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2017, 10:47:28 AM »
If it wasn’t for Oregon state police doing their jobs. That ring would still be out doing what they did. WDFW shouldn’t get a lick of credit for that bust. That was all Oregon that busted that case wide open.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2017, 10:58:42 AM »
Check out the front page of the Seattle Times today a huge article about 7 poachers being charged.

http://www.kptv.com/story/36296462/seven-people-charged-in-massive-washington-poaching-investigation

2 of the 7 have 60+ charges pending. Such a waste of life, it's disgusting that people like this get away with it for years.  Take pictures, video record it and brag about it.

Joseph Dills, 30 of Longview 64 counts
William Haynes, 23 of Longview 61 counts

Enjoy being felons and never getting to hunt or fish legally .

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 12:42:55 PM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

Anything is possible I guess,.... but ,.... both animals were less than 100yds off the paved Bumping Road,... in fact the 5x1 was only about 50yds off the road......

Lee

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 12:45:30 PM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

Also,.... the whole GMU was closed due to the fires to all (except residence of Gooseprairie) during the entire Archery season......
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 01:11:18 PM by lee »

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 01:28:52 PM »
Not all dead animals you find are poached. Even those with obvious bullet holes. Some wounded animals escape and die later from their wounds.  I shot an elk once during modern rifle that turned out to have a maxi ball in it's shoulder from an apparently good shot. It just didn't die from it. 

Someone may have been guilty of not looking hard enough for a wounded animal, (or not), but that doesn't make them a poacher. I wouldn't jump to conclusions without more info or facts.
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 01:37:03 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2017, 03:34:16 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.

Well.... the FACT is: two elk were killed off of the Bumping road a 1/4 mile apart and left to rot a mere 50-100yds off of the road.... when the road was closed to hunting due to fires... Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together....

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2017, 03:46:51 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.

Well.... the FACT is: two elk were killed off of the Bumping road a 1/4 mile apart and left to rot a mere 50-100yds off of the road.... when the road was closed to hunting due to fires... Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together....

Road was closed for archery. Was the road closed for muzzy season? So rocket scientist. Tell me how long does it take a animal body to decompose in the weather we had? Again your jumping to conclusions. Not every animal you find 50 yards or 50 miles off the road was poached. What would the likely hood of an elderly man shooting it. Bull runs off. He tried what he could to recover it but couldn’t. Instead of plastering the forum about possible poachers. Why not post hey I found two dead elk during muzzy season on was a spikex5. Maybe an honest law abiding hunter would contact you. But nope let’s go and blast about poaching. Cause this state isn’t getting enough attention on that already.   :bash:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2017, 05:38:07 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.
Sorry you lost your Elk.  Better luck next time.

 

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