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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2017, 09:20:08 PM »
Now on topic, I do think hunters and gun owners do have an important role to play in gun control- because we all know there are huge flaws in the system that need to addressed. If we could shift the conversation from "new laws" to better enforcement of the NICS system, eliminating false positives, better reporting of disqualifying conditions and crimes, and better followup on rejected applicants, etc- we show we care and have something to contribute to the conversation, instead of being shutout because "we're all stubborn gun nuts" and then getting new laws shoved down our throats from people ignorant on the minutiae of gun laws and ownership
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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2017, 09:25:05 PM »
Please no namecalling, you can have dissenting opinions and still follow the forum rules.

Is "troll" name calling? Legitimate question especially if a person is acting like a troll ( troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community )

Accusing the author of that article of being a "Knucklehead" BHA member would also insinuate that all BHA members are knuckleheads.... Which would be indirect name calling and trolling the people here who are BHA members. I'm not crying about it, just pointing out where the logic leads

I was addressing anyone who was calling others names. :tup:
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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2017, 04:38:36 PM »

Accusing the author of that article of being a "Knucklehead" BHA member would also insinuate that all BHA members are knuckleheads.... Which would be indirect name calling and trolling the people here who are BHA members. I'm not crying about it, just pointing out where the logic leads

Like the knucklehead grossly mistaken (is that better???  :)  ;) ) author's position that hunters need to support gun control, your logic is flawed.  I made no such insinuation.

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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2017, 09:13:29 PM »
I tried really hard to read past the second paragraph but couldn't make it happen. I haven't read the previous comments either but I'm going to have to go with a loud and resounding NO! This guys is a sham pushing liberal agendas under the guise of a hunter.

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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2017, 08:55:26 AM »
I would probably support some gun control.  We already have LOTS of it on the books, the obvious first step it to enforce the rules in place.  I don't mind that average citizens are not allowed to own missiles and bombs... I suppose rules against fully automatic weapons and high capacity magazines makes sense too. 

People like to use the argument that we need them to protect ourselves, usually against a tyrannical government.  Those same people are generally the first ones to support more military and law enforcement.  I'm not sure who they think it going to come take thier guns, but I bet it's not the boy scouts. 

The mass shootings are a problem.... there is generally a common thread with the demographic of the shooter too.  Flame away, masculine violence is an issue that needs dealt with.  DV charges tell you something about a guy....

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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2017, 10:13:55 AM »
Ask your employers about how their ancestors felt about gun control and confiscation. And nope...rules against high capacity magazines do not make sense.

The reality is that a good AR platform with a few high capacity magazines is unquestionably one of the best - if not the best, tools for property and home defense. 
 
Enforce existing laws. End revolving door criminal incarceration. Get violent criminals off the street and permanently out of our social fabric. Murderers, rapists and child molesters should be immediately converted to worm food.  No more coddling.
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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2017, 10:19:18 AM »
I agree with your last paragraph.

Unquestionably??  I think it can be questioned.  A shotgun that doesn't shoot bullets through the next door neighbors nursery might also be a good alternative. 

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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2017, 10:32:15 AM »
To that I would simply urge you to take some advanced defensive firearm training from highly respected instructors and educate yourself on the topic.
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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2017, 02:23:34 PM »
Actually we don't need gun control as guns are never the issue.  What we need is owner control.  The liberals don't seem to want to do that.  The one guy had a BCD from the service and for some reason that information wasn't passed over to the Feds. If it was he would have been disqualified on his NICS check.

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Re: Plea: Hunters should support gun control?
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2017, 12:24:21 AM »
The author brought up suicides and offered gun control as a solution, without acknowledging that the problem is people being suicidal.
When gun control is pushed, I don't usually hear ideas that would have stopped any of the shootings that started the topic. Radical ideas that could stop, or significantly reduce those shootings violate the rights of everyone else.

 


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