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Offline Calvin Rayborn

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2018, 11:27:46 PM »
US, Japan, or Philippines for a cheapo  :tup:

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2018, 05:44:49 AM »
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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2018, 03:02:42 PM »
I have owned my 4-16 HST for 4 years without an issue. I also own other various Vortex optics from diamondbacks to Razors with no complaints. Never understood how people have so much issues with theirs.

I now have a NF NXS but am keeping the Hst for future rifles.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2018, 04:06:21 PM »
Google Leopold    What do you get? 

Google Vortex what do you get? 


Think of how many leopold scopes are in existence and how many vortex there are. 

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2018, 04:45:33 PM »
I have a vortex viper HS LR 4-16 on my 300 wby mag.. tracks all the way out for mile long shots and comes right back down to my 200 yard zero with ease. Have never had an issue with it. My friend has the same scope with 0 issues and just bought a razor HD Gen II and loves it. The leupold I gave him for a short range rifle... vxI 3-9x40 gave out on him not even half way through the hunting season. I love both leupold and Vortex but for now on my money will go to Vortex. The glass is every bit as good as leupolds, the price is either the same or cheaper, and neither myself or any of my friends have had one fail. Also, leupold just assembles in the US while a lot of their scope parts are made out of country. That's for the guy claiming that they are 100% in the US.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2018, 09:21:03 PM »
I have owned my 4-16 HST for 4 years without an issue. I also own other various Vortex optics from diamondbacks to Razors with no complaints. Never understood how people have so much issues with theirs.

I now have a NF NXS but am keeping the Hst for future rifles.

Exactly what I've also been curious about, never understood people having issues with theirs, seeing as I own 5 different Vortex products, including 2 pairs of binos, a spotting scope, and 2 rifle scopes, my dad also uses a Vortex rifle scope. I don't know if I've been very lucky, or others on here have been very unlucky, but there is one thing I'm certain about: a lot of people use and enjoy Vortex, including many folks I know who could purchase any other brand of optics they please, but choose Vortex. I guess love em or hate em, they're here to stay!

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2018, 05:27:04 PM »
Everybody has an opinion!!
Leupold has been at the top for about 50 years and been around for about 110 years, they employ nearly 700 people in Beaverton not
counting sales force. They do purchase glass of offshore, however everything is machined in the US and  assembled in the US, except binos and rangefinders which are designed here. The militarys and law enforcment optics are close to 90% Leupold, not Vortex or Huskemaw nor Nightforce.
Most high end optics should be trouble free these day! No one has the volume out in the field like Leupold. People buy Taurus over Glocks
Thats the opinion thing again, however some know the difference.
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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2018, 05:40:21 PM »
Everybody has an opinion!!
Leupold has been at the top for about 50 years and been around for about 110 years, they employ nearly 700 people in Beaverton not
counting sales force. They do purchase glass of offshore, however everything is machined in the US and  assembled in the US, except binos and rangefinders which are designed here. The militarys and law enforcment optics are close to 90% Leupold, not Vortex or Huskemaw nor Nightforce.
Most high end optics should be trouble free these day! No one has the volume out in the field like Leupold. People buy Taurus over Glocks
Thats the opinion thing again, however some know the difference.
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Well said!  :tup: I wasn't trying to bash on anyone for their optics preference or be a put down, I just wanted to stand behind a company who has exceeded my expectations and provided me with excellent products  :tup: But you couldn't have said it better, we all have our own opinions!

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2018, 03:09:57 PM »
Just an FYI. Not trying to be a dick but the military uses leupold on the m24 for the army but goes to USoptics and Schmidt and bender for the marines. There is another brand being used and there is a contract with another manufacturer for optics for the US military. Don't get me wrong leupolds are great. I loved mine but it did break. My vortex has not broken. Also a LOT of PRS shooters are using Schmidt and bender, USOptics, and vortex. Very few are using leupolds anymore. Would I personally buy a leupold? Absolutely, if the price was right and the scope fit what I needed. For the time being though you can get a Vortex for cheaper with glass just as good. That's my opinion. As for the OP. He needs to go and check out all of the variations of the manufacturers scopes that he likes and that are in his budget and make his personal choice just like the rest of us have. On that note, Hope everybody is enjoying their glass!

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2018, 06:42:03 PM »
My Truglo is pretty darn good for a $59.95 scope....... :chuckle:
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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2018, 06:54:05 PM »
Anyone given bushnells engage series a serious look??  Their elite seriers was pretty nice and the engage is supose to blow the elite out of the water.  I would be curious to know if that is the case.  They sure are proud of them based on price alone. 

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2018, 06:54:19 PM »
Just an FYI. Not trying to be a dick but the military uses leupold on the m24 for the army but goes to USoptics and Schmidt and bender for the marines. There is another brand being used and there is a contract with another manufacturer for optics for the US military. Don't get me wrong leupolds are great. I loved mine but it did break. My vortex has not broken. Also a LOT of PRS shooters are using Schmidt and bender, USOptics, and vortex. Very few are using leupolds anymore. Would I personally buy a leupold? Absolutely, if the price was right and the scope fit what I needed. For the time being though you can get a Vortex for cheaper with glass just as good. That's my opinion. As for the OP. He needs to go and check out all of the variations of the manufacturers scopes that he likes and that are in his budget and make his personal choice just like the rest of us have. On that note, Hope everybody is enjoying their glass!
I thought Steiner was also used a lot by the Marines.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2018, 06:56:31 PM »
Anyone given bushnells engage series a serious look??  Their elite seriers was pretty nice and the engage is supose to blow the elite out of the water.  I would be curious to know if that is the case.  They sure are proud of them based on price alone.
If you buy an Engage 30mm tubed scope by the 15th you get a rebate that is good for a pair of Engage binos. $359 binos for free. Great deal.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2018, 07:30:43 PM »
to the op, I have the vortex HS LR, same as you looking at but my elevation is 1/2 moa per click where the hst is 1/4.  I also have a leupold vx3.  I wasn't to happy with customer service from leupold, scope wasn't tracking and when it came back it had an indentation where they mounted it. Sent pics and an email and they said it wasn't from them, yet it was wider than my rings and in a different spot from where I mount.   that being said I like how the vx3 doesn't have a side focus for yardage opposed to the vortex. leupold also has alot better eye relief in my opnion.  if I would have know better I would have spent the couple hundred more and got the vx6.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2018, 07:21:31 PM »
Just an FYI. Not trying to be a dick but the military uses leupold on the m24 for the army but goes to USoptics and Schmidt and bender for the marines. There is another brand being used and there is a contract with another manufacturer for optics for the US military. Don't get me wrong leupolds are great. I loved mine but it did break. My vortex has not broken. Also a LOT of PRS shooters are using Schmidt and bender, USOptics, and vortex. Very few are using leupolds anymore. Would I personally buy a leupold? Absolutely, if the price was right and the scope fit what I needed. For the time being though you can get a Vortex for cheaper with glass just as good. That's my opinion. As for the OP. He needs to go and check out all of the variations of the manufacturers scopes that he likes and that are in his budget and make his personal choice just like the rest of us have. On that note, Hope everybody is enjoying their glass!
I thought Steiner was also used a lot by the Marines.
That might have been the other brand that I couldn't remember off the top of my head. Sig also makes a TON of really good high end glass that is being used by military forces, PRS shooters, and benchrest shooters.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2018, 03:35:48 PM »
Well I ended up getting a vortex hs lr 6-25x50. Thanks everyone for your input.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2018, 03:40:09 PM »
Well I ended up getting a vortex hs lr 6-25x50. Thanks everyone for your input.
no problem. Enjoy it! I'm currently looking at either that exact same scope or the Vortex Strike Eagle 4-24 to put on a custom 300 win mag I am building.

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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2018, 10:17:19 PM »
Leupold scopes can take a beaten and still stay true. 

Yes and no.  I had one fail after a year and that thing had never even been bumped.  It looked brand new, but failed internally.  It was replaced by Leupold.
Too many stories like this for me to feel confident.
Id buy Zeiss Conquest or Nikon Monarch.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser men so full of doubts.
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Re: Need a scope
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Re: Need a scope
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2018, 05:34:05 PM »
Shoulda went Zeiss - end of conversation
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