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Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« on: February 09, 2018, 05:55:50 PM »
 :) What do you think about lift kits on 4X4's? Do they cause more/earlier wear? Are small lift kits (2-4inch) and medium tires, different than a 6 inch lift and Huge tires?  Or is a guy better off to just leave it stock? Opinions please. I am not sure why it would matter but a Toyota 4Runner.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 06:13:57 PM »
Tell us what truck you are referring to.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 06:27:19 PM »
driving causes wear, don't be scared. I've had a 2" level and 34.5" tires on my f150 for 65k  miles (has 81k now) and all the forums preach your ball joints will wear out quicker and it'll wear your cv joints in the axle shafts.  my jeep comanche has between 6-7" of lift. my dad's 2005 ram has had a 4" lift nd 35s since new, about 130k on it.  the bigger the lift, the bigger tires you'll want. at some point you'll have to regear to save the tranny and boost performance back to near stock. if your asking I'm betting it'll be a mall crawler and see no offroad where a lift and tires can sometimes help



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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 07:28:23 PM »
Not all lift kits are created equal either. How much are you wanting to lift your 4Runner? I couldnít stand the stock stance, so I installed a 3/1 leveling kit on my Tundra.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 07:38:12 PM »
2" Leveling kit on 2015 Ram 1500.  Been running wheel spacers for chains for last 6 months.  90k miles no problems.  Lifts done right only are no issues other than reduced mileage which can be significant with the larger tires and wind resistance.


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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 07:48:05 PM »
A lot of the where can come from the wrong off set on wheels and huge tires, if you find a good compromise on offset to clear your UCA and a tire that is not to wide and heavy your fuel milage, rubbing, and where can be minimized. Look at Toytec lifts for yota's, great options!


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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 08:04:46 PM »
Iíll add another leveling kit to that mix. Iíve had my 2014 Ram Cummins leveled with 35ís for 90k. Been a good rig.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 08:10:07 PM »
thanks, I saw a 4runner like mine with about 2-3 inch rear and 3-4 in front. so it was level. I intend to keep stock size tires, or very close, but get more aggressive tread, if I do this. I found a kit with shocks, springs,  and these upper bars :dunno: that do something. Highly recommended. Kings, I think. The runner I saw looked pretty darn good. What is a good place to get work like this done?

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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 08:18:12 PM »
A lot of times the Kings will come with new upper control arms, so thatís probably what you are talking about.

I installed mine myself and then had Andyís Off-Road in Lacey do my alignment. Most shops wonít instal kits that you donít buy from them.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2018, 08:41:03 PM »
6Ē on my F-150 with no problems
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2018, 08:50:49 PM »
I went with leveling kit on my truck and few sizes larger tire and aggressive tread. No problems here. To big a lift on an already big truck means im not getting no where. :chuckle:
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2018, 08:54:25 PM »
The more unsprung wight you add ...ie tires and wheels the more wear your gonna have in the front suspension and steering componants. Level kits are ok but remember that by raising the rear you take caster out of the front end . Always have a good allignment shop check the caster swing . Gaurantted, if you change tore size you. Will effect gear ratio . This can be hard on a transmission . Gear changes will correct it but are costly   
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2018, 05:39:34 PM »
Thanks for all your opinion and help. I have decided, No lift kit for me, stock is cool
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2018, 07:33:59 PM »
A lot of times the Kings will come with new upper control arms, so thatís probably what you are talking about.

I installed mine myself and then had Andyís Off-Road in Lacey do my alignment. Most shops wonít instal kits that you donít buy from them.
Andy is a good guy. :tup:
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2018, 07:40:11 PM »
Thanks for all your opinion and help. I have decided, No lift kit for me, stock is cool
Carl


check these out, I'm thinking about putting them on my 2016 Colorado Z71


This is for a 2017 4 runner TRD   I guessed at your vehicle so you might need to change it a little but I bet they fit
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2018, 07:44:47 PM »
I looked at them KF but just do not see the point. the guys at Toyota are purty smart, I'll just run what they brung.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 07:47:44 PM »
driving causes wear, don't be scared. I've had a 2" level and 34.5" tires on my f150 for 65k  miles (has 81k now) and all the forums preach your ball joints will wear out quicker and it'll wear your cv joints in the axle shafts.  my jeep comanche has between 6-7" of lift. my dad's 2005 ram has had a 4" lift nd 35s since new, about 130k on it.  the bigger the lift, the bigger tires you'll want. at some point you'll have to regear to save the tranny and boost performance back to near stock. if your asking I'm betting it'll be a mall crawler and see no offroad where a lift and tires can sometimes help



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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 08:02:19 PM »
I looked at them KF but just do not see the point. the guys at Toyota are purty smart, I'll just run what they brung.
Carl

They suppose to add a couple inches, for the Colorado it's up to 2.75 inches which would make a big difference for me as it's a bit too low.

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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 09:30:12 AM »
KF I went to the Summit site those shock are pretty cheap really. less than $400.00 for my Toyo. I am going to find out about installation
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2018, 08:08:20 PM »
I looked at them KF but just do not see the point. the guys at Toyota are purty smart, I'll just run what they brung.
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Re: Hey Jackalope, Coach and other car experts about lift kits
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2018, 10:14:38 PM »
A lot of times the Kings will come with new upper control arms, so thatís probably what you are talking about.

I installed mine myself and then had Andyís Off-Road in Lacey do my alignment. Most shops wonít instal kits that you donít buy from them.
Andy is a good guy. :tup:
Yep, he didnít great on my alignment. On the lift kits he only runs Revtek for the Tundra leveling kits, which is why I ended up installing the Low Range front spacers with Toytec shackles myself.
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