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Dog torn ACL's
« on: February 12, 2018, 08:43:19 AM »
Have never had a dog tear an ACL  before but it was pretty devastating. Come to find out, she has torn both back legs. Researched all the 20+ surgical options for repair and opted for TPLO - tibial plateau leveling osteotomy arthrodesis. This corrects tears and allows working dogs pretty much full recovery with minimal future issues. Problem was the cost. At quotes in the Seattle area from 4500$ per leg to upwards of 7K it was troubling.. My vet recommended the WSU Pullman school and I was amazed at the cost reduction for having patients in the teaching environment and costs are around $3200/leg. Back Leg #1 was done last Friday and I am nothing short of amazed. 4 weeks I return for back leg #2. Full recovery I am told will be in time for fall season. Down time for the dog is key to success, no walking, jumping, stairs ect for 8 weeks post surgery, so for her, it will actually be 12 weeks.. I will post weekly updates and pics if I can figure it out here with her recovery status for those who may have similar issues with a working dog..
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 08:49:59 AM »
Wow, how did she injure them?
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 09:01:51 AM »
Wow, how did she injure them?


just running..
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2018, 09:05:52 AM »
Wow, how did she injure them?


just running..

Ouch. My 5 year old goes balls out all the time and it scares me. I watch her jumping sage brush, downed logs etc and I just pray she doesn't hurt herself. She is a dog though so can't really hold them back. Keep up posted and good luck!
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 09:31:35 AM »
Really common in active lab sized dogs it seems. Happened to my yellow dog as well.  DoubleJ has a thread going on it happening to his dog too.
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 09:35:51 AM »
Sorry to hear! How do you keep the dog inactive during the recovery time? 8+ weeks seems like a long time to keep a dog from being a dog.
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 10:27:20 AM »
no walking for 12 weeks?  :dunno: how does that work?

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 10:39:36 AM »
no walking for 12 weeks?  :dunno: how does that work?
House arrest. Leash walk only out to potty, that's it.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2018, 10:44:26 AM »
no walking for 12 weeks?  :dunno: how does that work?
House arrest. Leash walk only out to potty, that's it.

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When our dawg had her's done the vet gave me an example of putting a 100.00 bill on the fridge. Said if she tears it bring me back 15 more of them with the one on the fridge and he will repeat what he had just done.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2018, 11:18:13 AM »
Ya you put the dog in a crate that is just big enough and leave it there for 8-12 weeks. It's torture.
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2018, 11:40:45 AM »
Our lab/dane cross had both done at the same time. We used a strap around her belly to assist her walking and going outside. We got her a comfy bed and a play-pen type enclosure. The kennel we have for her is plenty big, until you need to reach in and help lift 120 lbs.
Tramadal and ace pills helped keep her mellow. Her surgery was in April, she's fully recovered but we keep her calm on the wood floors, don't let her chase the neighbors cats, etc.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2018, 11:42:50 AM »
Here's a picture of the x-ray.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2018, 11:56:54 AM »
Different injury but equally amazing, had a dog lost spring break her pelvis, when I saw the xray I felt sick. There was a clear separation about a half inch wide, I thought I was going to have to put her down. The vet was happy though that it wasn't the broken leg we thought it was,  she said no surgery needed just lock her in a kennel so she can't jump or run for 4 weeks and she will fully recover.  She's healthy as can be no issues at all .

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2018, 12:42:29 PM »
Sound advise.  My wife assists on these all the time.  Our dog has had one.  If you are westside I may be able to suggest a good Doc at a better price?  Would have to ask wife.??  Yes 12 weeks, pills, kennel all important. Its hard.
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2018, 01:49:04 PM »
Wapititalk should post in here anytime with his Vet recommendation, I am sending him an email... 
Do NOT get it done locally, all the vets here on the Wetside charge way to much.
His dog had to have BOTH knees done a year or two ago and out the door total was around what the local here charge for ONE.  and the vert is supposedly a pioneer in the field.  His dog was back up and going pretty quickly.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2018, 04:25:22 PM »
I had the first Sporting Breed the TPLO was ever done on.  The technology has come a long way since then.  The Technic was developed by Dr. Barclay Slocum.  My GSP blew hers out at ten months of age another Vet friend of mine who has since retired (Dr. Slocum has passed) arraigned to have this procedure done for me.  It was much more expensive then then now.  Through proper Rehab. mainly swimming.  Ardi went on to a outstanding field trial career, She became a AKC Field Champion / Amateur Field Champion, Canadian Field Trial Champion / Amatuer Field Trial Champion and won the 1998 Canadian National Chukar Championship.  She also had a outstanding Hunting Career until she retired at 13 years.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 05:31:40 PM »
Common injury for sure. May want to check east side surgeons as well for TPLO. Spokane or WSU
May be worth a road trip. Drop the dog off for surgery, take the wife out for a nice weekend and still have gas money  for hunting season .......
Seems the west side surgeons realize their clients won't travel???

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 07:01:11 PM »
While I didn't have my dog have torn ACL's in both leg he is into the 11 month of recovery for one leg. My vet suggested a vet in Wenatchee for the TPO surgery. I couldn't be more happy with how it turned out. He does have a little atrophy but that's expected. We were pretty strict on his progress for his recovery. He is a pretty tough dog and before and after surgery has done some pretty extreme hiking. Good luck with your dog just going to have to baby him for a while which is tough to do but in the long run its worth it.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2018, 07:32:37 PM »
Wife says its around $3500+ at her place of employment.  The Doctor is a mobile specialist. He is very good.  Just a heads up for any looking for good care from certified Vet hospital. :tup:
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2018, 07:47:41 PM »
I was wondering if you looked into the lateral sling procedure. My lab tore his tendon last year during hunting season and I researched the Tplo and decided to do the lateral sling instead. If you are interested in more info let me know.

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2018, 07:50:03 PM »
Never mind I should have read your entire post. Hope all goes well .

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2018, 06:19:11 AM »
Wow, how did she injure them?


just running..

Ouch. My 5 year old goes balls out all the time and it scares me. I watch her jumping sage brush, downed logs etc and I just pray she doesn't hurt herself. She is a dog though so can't really hold them back. Keep up posted and good luck!

Thanks, yea my 8 year old (injured) was balls out all the time and I have a young 3 year old she MUST out perform. I have 3 pointers and she was my range girl. out 2-300yds and hold points for me to catch up, others in closer kind of zones they work. She, once healed, is smart enough to be talked into close in work and create a new tight zone of range around me, but that is still 1 more successful surgery away!   She I think had injured one leg a couple years ago, maybe I saw thought she was just lame, no yipping ... when the second leg went , she was chasing the puppy around my yard and was very vocal in pain. I am +3 days now and she is responding incredibly well IMO.
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2018, 06:33:55 AM »
I will tell you this before my dog tore his after a hard day of hiking when we got home he would limp. I would give him a half or a full tablet of Rhymadal(sp) and he would be good to go the next day. Well then last year we were hiking in the snow and got back and he was limping and continued to limp for days so we took him in to find out it was torn. The vet said sometimes it can be immediate and sometimes it gradually gets worse. 

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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2018, 10:46:36 PM »
Dr Akers in Sun Valley is the only choice in my opinion. Hands down the choice for anyone who wants a complete rehab with the most performance based experience. Also, a few thousand dollars less than others who claim better results. He made the real developments in the surgeries which benefit the long term recovery.
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Re: Dog torn ACL's
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2018, 06:41:44 AM »
Ya you put the dog in a crate that is just big enough and leave it there for 8-12 weeks. It's torture.

yes tough on the dogs for sure, but the alternative is worse..... she very much understands what is happening.. has an ortho bed and camps when I am home...
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