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Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them
« on: February 12, 2018, 05:10:26 PM »
Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them

http://www.therepublic.com/2018/02/08/us-interior-secretary-western-governors/

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Re: Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 05:27:45 PM »
"The governors pointed out that under Zinkeís plan, some states would be divided among two or three of the new regions. They asked how that would affect the departmentís ability to coordinate with states."

Washington would be split into two regions. BLM/USFWS/NPS currently have WA in one region. Supposedly the regional boundary lines were drawn to align with watersheds.

It should be noted that under Zinke's proposal there would be 13 regions, all of the DOI agencies currently have fewer than 13 regions which begs one to believe will there now be more beaurocrats? 13 regional directors at USFWS instead of the current 8? 13 regional directors at the NPS instead of the current 7? Nobody really knows.


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Re: Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 05:46:11 AM »
Might be a reason for not including the Governors, like putting a stop in the implementation of agenda 2030?

Looking at the job the USFS, BLM etc. have done so far does not lead to a positive outcome in the future.


Remember Zinke stopped the BS grizzly bear introduction into WA, which means the USFS, WDFW, USFWS, BLM etc, would not be able to close off large chunks of public lands for grizzly bear habitat.

Glad to see Zinke mixing things up. :tup:

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Re: Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 09:00:37 AM »
Might be a reason for not including the Governors, like putting a stop in the implementation of agenda 2030?

Looking at the job the USFS, BLM etc. have done so far does not lead to a positive outcome in the future.


Remember Zinke stopped the BS grizzly bear introduction into WA, which means the USFS, WDFW, USFWS, BLM etc, would not be able to close off large chunks of public lands for grizzly bear habitat.

Glad to see Zinke mixing things up. :tup:
Zinke doesn't oversee the Forest Service.

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Re: Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them
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Re: Governors say Interior Department shift didnít include them
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 01:45:04 PM »
I think this is another good article that conveys how Zinke views his role and our resources. https://www.outsideonline.com/2266216/man-flies-his-own-flag

Regarding the interior shift particularly: "JMAs would be based on ecosystems, not geographic regions, and would, in theory, eliminate redundancies in staffing and allow for more streamlined decision-making. Zinke told me that the JMA idea was inspired by the U.S. militaryís Joint Special Operations Command, in which a mix of uniforms direct blended teams of elite operators. ďThatís how we fight wars"

but the author (and fellow veteran) makes an incredibly valid point: " With roughly 70,000 employees, the branches that make up Interior are nothing like the small and unorthodox outfits that make up JSOC. Theyíre more like what we used to call the Big Armyósprawling, slow-moving, and charged with waging the utterly unsexy daily battles that keep the lights on, the grazing permits up to date, and the forms properly filed."

I think it makes sense to have "task forces" and "joint command units" in certain region and ecosystems, but it doesn't ever replace the bigger picture operational needs. Develop those units (ie: the GYE Interior Office) to supplement and support the greater mission of the Interior, not perform the job entirely. Regional cross-collaboration is great, but it isn't the end-all, be-all way to run a large scale organization
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