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Conflict Goat?
« on: March 17, 2018, 12:05:22 AM »
Sorry if I missed this, but are "Conflict Goat" tags not a thing anymore?

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2018, 12:17:00 AM »
Not sure but the plan at this point I believe is to capture and relocate a lot of those goats.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2018, 12:23:43 AM »
Was hoping to get one relocated to my living room wall but looks like the chances of that are in the past!!!
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2018, 08:39:19 AM »
Don’t give up. I drew with 9 points, which sounds like a lot but look at everyone else. A guy gets lucky once in a while. 
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2018, 10:36:06 AM »
 :yeah: sometimes you beat the odds big time. :chuckle: :tup:
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2018, 09:51:53 PM »
No conflicts with me... :tup:

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 03:04:42 PM »
They renamed it East  Olympic Mountains. still separate from other goat tags. looks like 3 tags this year.

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 03:07:38 PM »
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 03:41:43 PM »
I never did understand why WDFW did not offer this hunt so that it did not qualify as your once in a lifetime (OIL) goat.  :dunno: I mean who wants to blow their years of point building to go shoot any goat including nannies as WDFW urges hunters to do with this tag?
If the goal was really to reduce conflict and not specifically make it a trophy tag they should have set this hunt up so that it did not qualify to be your OIL goat. Meaning that if you drew the conflict tag and got a goat, you could still apply for the other goat tags and your conflict goat was not considered to be your OIL goat. If I remember correctly, there was a big push by hunters to waive the OIL status of these conflict tags, but WDFW shot it down. They could have simply offered more tags that did not qualify as OIL goats and got much better results to achieve the original goal, CONFLICT REDUCTION. But no, now there will be an expensive project to try to relocate goats instead of managing the hunt in an intelligent fashion.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 04:07:15 PM »
Isn't it only OIL if you kill a goat?

If it wasn't OIL I would be applying every single year....and so would everyone else under the sun.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 04:30:22 PM »
Isn't it only OIL if you kill a goat?

If it wasn't OIL I would be applying every single year....and so would everyone else under the sun.

If the goal is to reduce or eliminate the herd why place any barrier to application on it at all? It's not being billed as a normal goat hunt so applying the oil designation seems off from their stayed message.

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 04:43:05 PM »
Isn't it only OIL if you kill a goat?

If it wasn't OIL I would be applying every single year....and so would everyone else under the sun.

If the goal is to reduce or eliminate the herd why place any barrier to application on it at all? It's not being billed as a normal goat hunt so applying the oil designation seems off from their stayed message.

Ya I agree with you.

This is just me, and I don't expect anyone else to think the same way as me although I suspect more than a few do. I would never apply for this hunt knowing it was an OIL hunt. Let me rephrase that. I would never shoot the first goat I saw(like they want you to) knowing it was an OIL hunt. I guess I'm not surprised people do, but I don't want my WA OIL mountain goat to be a nanny.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 04:48:44 PM »
Wow, I didn't realize it would waste the OIL opportunity, I probably will quit applying.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 05:43:08 PM »
Odds are so terrible of ever drawing any goat tag in wa I’d gladly take whatever tag I could get knowing it is oil.  :twocents:

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 06:28:05 PM »
Odds are so terrible of ever drawing any goat tag in wa I’d gladly take whatever tag I could get knowing it is oil.  :twocents:
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 07:31:21 PM »
My hunting partner was a national park ranger for a number of years. He has spent some time in the Olympics and knows alot of people who are constantly around there and there are plenty of big billies around. No reason you couldn't be picky and find a nice goat, just doesn't help the states goal. That's why it think it shouldn't count towards a oil tag.

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2018, 09:01:55 PM »
Why would they cut the tags from 6 total to 3? Seems kind of  contray to the goal of the tag.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2018, 09:38:11 PM »
The way I read it, drawing this tag DOES NOT affect your points or ability to draw a "normal" Mt Goat tag.

Am I wrong?
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 10:33:17 PM »
The way I read it, drawing this tag DOES NOT affect your points or ability to draw a "normal" Mt Goat tag.

Am I wrong?

No, but if you kill a goat you’re done with your OIL goat ability.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 10:38:33 PM »
Those Olympics goats won’t have any hair in those seasons either. Another Bummer.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 10:39:52 PM »
My hunting partner was a national park ranger for a number of years. He has spent some time in the Olympics and knows alot of people who are constantly around there and there are plenty of big billies around. No reason you couldn't be picky and find a nice goat, just doesn't help the states goal. That's why it think it shouldn't count towards a oil tag.

I’m sure there are some stud billies running around over there. That’s exactly what I would do.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 05:09:00 AM »
What run around and be a stud?

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 07:03:37 AM »
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 07:10:29 AM »
When I first read the title of this, I thought I was going to read an article about someone trying to take their service animal, a conflict goat, onto an aircraft or something.  :chuckle: Carry on.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 08:08:50 AM »
What run around and be a stud?

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Really, I would hold out for a nice billy. No way I would shoot the first goat I saw on an OIL hunt unless it was the right billy.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2018, 09:41:32 AM »
The conflict goat hunt does not affect your "normal" goat hunt opportunity, though........   right?


My son drew the conflict goat hunt the year before it became a conflict. 
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 09:49:59 AM »
The conflict goat hunt does not affect your "normal" goat hunt opportunity, though........   right?


My son drew the conflict goat hunt the year before it became a conflict. 

I'm 99% sure that if he killed a goat he is done goat hunting in Washington. I might be wrong I guess.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 09:56:12 AM »
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 09:58:05 AM »
So reading that, if you draw a Baker tag and don't harvest a goat, can you apply again? I was always under the impression that if you drew one of the normal goat permits, you were done whether you harvest or not.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 10:00:20 AM »
So reading that, if you draw a Baker tag and don't harvest a goat, can you apply again? I was always under the impression that if you drew one of the normal goat permits, you were done whether you harvest or not.
i believe they changed that a few years ago, no kill and you can re-apply.  Your out!!!!  😬
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2018, 10:20:12 AM »
So reading that, if you draw a Baker tag and don't harvest a goat, can you apply again? I was always under the impression that if you drew one of the normal goat permits, you were done whether you harvest or not.
i believe they changed that a few years ago, no kill and you can re-apply.  Your out!!!!  😬

That's alright. I'll go with you when you draw this year. Here's the cool part.... no grizzly bears.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 10:29:38 AM »
I was under the impression, one and done. I havent been putting in for the conflict hunt for that reason.

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2018, 10:49:19 AM »
So reading that, if you draw a Baker tag and don't harvest a goat, can you apply again? I was always under the impression that if you drew one of the normal goat permits, you were done whether you harvest or not.
i believe they changed that a few years ago, no kill and you can re-apply.  Your out!!!!  😬

That's alright. I'll go with you when you draw this year. Here's the cool part.... no grizzly bears.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2018, 10:53:49 AM »
if you don't kill yer points will probably  zero though?
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2018, 11:00:59 AM »
if you don't kill yer points will probably  zero though?
that is true , so you might just as well be done.
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2018, 12:37:13 PM »
Did they remove this hunt? I can't buy my special permit application for it this year. Anyone else experiencing this? What happens to our points if this hunt is now gone?

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2018, 07:22:15 PM »
Applications can’t be bought for anything yet. Try again in two weeks
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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2018, 08:22:38 PM »
You can buy the applications. I have already bought mine a month or so ago

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Re: Conflict Goat?
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2018, 10:30:24 PM »
Applications can definitely be purchased right now, I bought mine today. I wasn't able to buy conflict goat though, it wasn't listed in the available applications.

 

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