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The data comes from this site: https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2017.phpThis gives the number of applicants with each point level. You need to square the points and multiply them times the number of applicants for each level, and then sum them.For example, the data shows that two applicants had 11 points. Each had 121 names in the hat (11x11). Multiplying 11 times the 2 applicants means that applicants with 11 points had a total of 242 names “in the hat”.I copy the data, paste it into Excel, and do the math.

except there is only 242 names in the hat with 11 points and over 24k in the hat with just 4 points.odds are in favor of the people with 4 points.

Quote from: Oh Mah on March 30, 2018, 04:03:12 PMexcept there is only 242 names in the hat with 11 points and over 24k in the hat with just 4 points.odds are in favor of the people with 4 points.I don't think you are getting the math. The guys with 11 points still have a higher % chance of being draw due to the fact that there names are on more cards in the hat than any other individual. Now the odds of being drawn in the groups of 3, 4, and 5 points are high but that's only because of how many people applied in with those point groups. Its an algorithm to be honest. Reason being is that every time someone from one of the groups the number changes and thus the chances change. Its a pain in the ass to figure out especially since you don't know which names are drawn and how many points they had. Good news though.. I foresee it being the same as the past 2-3 years where they end up selling a bunch over the counter. Only issue with that is they sell them out within 5 minutes for elk. Deer I could have picked one up a couple weeks after they sold otc!

Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on March 30, 2018, 04:44:55 PMQuote from: Oh Mah on March 30, 2018, 04:03:12 PMexcept there is only 242 names in the hat with 11 points and over 24k in the hat with just 4 points.odds are in favor of the people with 4 points.I don't think you are getting the math. The guys with 11 points still have a higher % chance of being draw due to the fact that there names are on more cards in the hat than any other individual. Now the odds of being drawn in the groups of 3, 4, and 5 points are high but that's only because of how many people applied in with those point groups. Its an algorithm to be honest. Reason being is that every time someone from one of the groups the number changes and thus the chances change. Its a pain in the ass to figure out especially since you don't know which names are drawn and how many points they had. Good news though.. I foresee it being the same as the past 2-3 years where they end up selling a bunch over the counter. Only issue with that is they sell them out within 5 minutes for elk. Deer I could have picked one up a couple weeks after they sold otc! There was a few over 50 MS elk tags left over last year that sold out in a few seconds. (Think about every vender pushing a button at the same moment.) I got one of them. It took about 15 minutes for the system to grind them out.

only people that applied. tick - tock

I WISH IT WAS: BUY TAG FOR MULTI WITHOUT BUYING LICENSE IF DRAWN DRAWN ALREADY PAID FOR.REIMBURSE THE REST.PUT IN FOR ALL SPECIAL HUNT PERMITS AND BUY OTHER LICENSES NEEDED FOR SEASON AFTER MULTI SEASON DRAW.

Does anyone know how long after today before they post the results?