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Wy Grizzy hunting
« on: March 28, 2018, 05:52:34 AM »
The proposed season will include a draw for 24 permits for this fall season. Up to 6 permits may be available to non-residents. The non-resident license fee is proposed at $6,000 and resident license fees at $600. More information will be available once regulations are approved.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 06:44:27 AM »
Thanks for sharing the info. Going to give this opportunity some serious consideration.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2018, 09:03:53 AM »
If you go to their website this is open to public comment. I may be being cheap but I asked for them to consider lowering the non-resident price tag. I know it will be a highly sought after hunt but $6000 seems pretty spendy for an average hunter that would like to have a shot at a Griz in there lifetime  :dunno: I will do points option if available until im rich!

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 09:22:22 AM »
Nowhere else can you touch a grizz hunt for 6k I donít think.  Iíll be applying for it given the chance and will just have to figure it out how to pay for it should I draw.
That would make the wife super happy Iím sure.  :chuckle:

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 09:31:25 AM »
If you go to their website this is open to public comment. I may be being cheap but I asked for them to consider lowering the non-resident price tag. I know it will be a highly sought after hunt but $6000 seems pretty spendy for an average hunter that would like to have a shot at a Griz in there lifetime  :dunno: I will do points option if available until im rich!

sounds pretty reasonable to me. supply and demand after all. how many other lower 48 grizzly tags can you get cheaper? if anything its low for non rez and any one who isn't a resident of Wyoming should be happy there even made available. Idaho's one tag there talking about better be resident only

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 11:31:10 AM »
If you go to their website this is open to public comment. I may be being cheap but I asked for them to consider lowering the non-resident price tag. I know it will be a highly sought after hunt but $6000 seems pretty spendy for an average hunter that would like to have a shot at a Griz in there lifetime  :dunno: I will do points option if available until im rich!

sounds pretty reasonable to me. supply and demand after all. how many other lower 48 grizzly tags can you get cheaper? if anything its low for non rez and any one who isn't a resident of Wyoming should be happy there even made available. Idaho's one tag there talking about better be resident only

I totally understand the supply and demand but I still think they should lower the price so not just people with deep pockets can go on this hunt. Idaho will probably make that one tag an even draw open to anyone lol. More income that way in apps.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2018, 11:53:20 AM »
If you go to their website this is open to public comment. I may be being cheap but I asked for them to consider lowering the non-resident price tag. I know it will be a highly sought after hunt but $6000 seems pretty spendy for an average hunter that would like to have a shot at a Griz in there lifetime  :dunno: I will do points option if available until im rich!

sounds pretty reasonable to me. supply and demand after all. how many other lower 48 grizzly tags can you get cheaper? if anything its low for non rez and any one who isn't a resident of Wyoming should be happy there even made available. Idaho's one tag there talking about better be resident only

I totally understand the supply and demand but I still think they should lower the price so not just people with deep pockets can go on this hunt. Idaho will probably make that one tag an even draw open to anyone lol. More income that way in apps.
100% agree with you 180 grain, on everything you just said!  6,000 is ridiculous for a bear.  And I hope Idaho opens it up to everyone.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2018, 11:54:44 AM »
Lord grizzly, tell us how you really feel about non res hunters! 😆
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2018, 11:56:40 AM »
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2018, 12:07:07 PM »
Lord grizzly, tell us how you really feel about non res hunters! 😆

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2018, 12:09:07 PM »
If you go to their website this is open to public comment. I may be being cheap but I asked for them to consider lowering the non-resident price tag. I know it will be a highly sought after hunt but $6000 seems pretty spendy for an average hunter that would like to have a shot at a Griz in there lifetime  :dunno: I will do points option if available until im rich!

sounds pretty reasonable to me. supply and demand after all. how many other lower 48 grizzly tags can you get cheaper? if anything its low for non rez and any one who isn't a resident of Wyoming should be happy there even made available. Idaho's one tag there talking about better be resident only

I totally understand the supply and demand but I still think they should lower the price so not just people with deep pockets can go on this hunt. Idaho will probably make that one tag an even draw open to anyone lol. More income that way in apps.
100% agree with you 180 grain, on everything you just said!  6,000 is ridiculous for a bear.  And I hope Idaho opens it up to everyone.

remember were talking about the first chance at a lower 48 grizzly hunt in I don't know how long, not just a bear. 6 grand is a deal. id happily pay

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2018, 06:07:24 PM »
If you go to their website this is open to public comment. I may be being cheap but I asked for them to consider lowering the non-resident price tag. I know it will be a highly sought after hunt but $6000 seems pretty spendy for an average hunter that would like to have a shot at a Griz in there lifetime  :dunno: I will do points option if available until im rich!

sounds pretty reasonable to me. supply and demand after all. how many other lower 48 grizzly tags can you get cheaper? if anything its low for non rez and any one who isn't a resident of Wyoming should be happy there even made available. Idaho's one tag there talking about better be resident only

I totally understand the supply and demand but I still think they should lower the price so not just people with deep pockets can go on this hunt. Idaho will probably make that one tag an even draw open to anyone lol. More income that way in apps.
100% agree with you 180 grain, on everything you just said!  6,000 is ridiculous for a bear.  And I hope Idaho opens it up to everyone.

remember were talking about the first chance at a lower 48 grizzly hunt in I don't know how long, not just a bear. 6 grand is a deal. id happily pay
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6000 dollars is outrageous! I will be putting in though  :chuckle: and so will a million other people. I think there is a good chance idaho will make it residents only which I agree is correct with only 1 tag available. Idaho has a decent record of not chasing money with every game decision they make unlike most other states

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2018, 06:32:56 PM »
Whatís everyoneís guess on how many non resident applications there will be?
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2018, 06:38:53 PM »
Not that many at $6 grand, pay up front.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2018, 07:06:22 PM »
Enough to make it competitive odds.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2018, 08:00:37 PM »
Is there any other rules on this hunt? Like you have to use a guide if you're non res.?
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2018, 08:05:21 PM »
I think a non res tag in Alaska for grizzly is only 1k.I realize you have to hire a guide but 6k does seem high.  :twocents:
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2018, 08:11:14 PM »
Not that many at $6 grand, pay up front.
Didnít even think of that! That may kick me out.
I could scrimp and come up with it if I had to but not sure I could up front.  :chuckle:

EDIT. after reading it doesnít look like the pay up front will apply to this like regular draw. Just $15 app fee. It says that residents get the first 75% of the tags before nonres are allowed to draw. Looks more like a list hunt with 2 active tags at a time until the quota is met or 2 sows are killed.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2018, 08:25:33 PM »
When youíre contacted you will have 10 days to buy your tag in person or else it goes to the next person.

Will be a very short notice hunt also. No ability to plan timing or vacation since tags are issued as the previous are filled.

This all just from the proposed rules

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2018, 09:05:14 PM »
I think the number of applicants will be huge. As said 6 grand is a ton of money for a tag but actually (sad to say) cheap compared to the other options like Alaska where you have to use a guide. I also bet a lot of people who draw from out of state will hire a guide and pay full cost anyways which I donít understand as it takes away the benefits of drawing the tag. I was trying to guess a number but have no idea? 20,000 ? All I can think of is huge!  :chuckle:

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2018, 09:17:20 PM »
Lord grizzly, tell us how you really feel about non res hunters! 😆

let me tell you about my dream of a border wall. and i'm not talking about Mexico's border either...

That's awesome.  :chuckle:
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2018, 09:19:29 PM »
Not that many at $6 grand, pay up front.
Didnít even think of that! That may kick me out.
I could scrimp and come up with it if I had to but not sure I could up front.  :chuckle:

EDIT. after reading it doesnít look like the pay up front will apply to this like regular draw. Just $15 app fee. It says that residents get the first 75% of the tags before nonres are allowed to draw. Looks more like a list hunt with 2 active tags at a time until the quota is met or 2 sows are killed.


I didnít read this before my other post. This makes things a lot different for me not sure I would pay 6000 and then have the quota filled early. They had what I remember as unlimited draw tags in northwest Montana when I was there in the early 80s and sometimes the hunt barely opened because they counted bears killed by trains etc in the quota. Also didnít think about the non res guide requirements as a possibility. If they require a guide I will not put in and I think that would decrease the apps quite a bit

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2018, 09:47:54 PM »
At that rate... you can save up for a couple years and just go to Alaska. Was just looking online and there are quite a few good looking outfitters, one in denali with really good reviews, that offer spring grizzly/brown bear hunts for $10,000 with a $2,000-$2,500 trophy fee. If its $1,000 for a tag then you are looking at $13,000-$13,500 not including getting up there but that's not bad for a true giant Alaskan grizzly. Imo, and this is just my opinion, I will save up my money and put it toward the Alaskan hunt with a guide.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2018, 08:13:41 AM »
Not that many at $6 grand, pay up front.
Didnít even think of that! That may kick me out.
I could scrimp and come up with it if I had to but not sure I could up front.  :chuckle:

EDIT. after reading it doesnít look like the pay up front will apply to this like regular draw. Just $15 app fee. It says that residents get the first 75% of the tags before nonres are allowed to draw. Looks more like a list hunt with 2 active tags at a time until the quota is met or 2 sows are killed.


I didnít read this before my other post. This makes things a lot different for me not sure I would pay 6000 and then have the quota filled early. They had what I remember as unlimited draw tags in northwest Montana when I was there in the early 80s and sometimes the hunt barely opened because they counted bears killed by trains etc in the quota. Also didnít think about the non res guide requirements as a possibility. If they require a guide I will not put in and I think that would decrease the apps quite a bit
You would only have to pay for the tag if your name is up and there is still quota or season left. Itís $15 until that point

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2018, 08:36:52 AM »
Not that many at $6 grand, pay up front.
Didnít even think of that! That may kick me out.
I could scrimp and come up with it if I had to but not sure I could up front.  :chuckle:

EDIT. after reading it doesnít look like the pay up front will apply to this like regular draw. Just $15 app fee. It says that residents get the first 75% of the tags before nonres are allowed to draw. Looks more like a list hunt with 2 active tags at a time until the quota is met or 2 sows are killed.


I didnít read this before my other post. This makes things a lot different for me not sure I would pay 6000 and then have the quota filled early. They had what I remember as unlimited draw tags in northwest Montana when I was there in the early 80s and sometimes the hunt barely opened because they counted bears killed by trains etc in the quota. Also didnít think about the non res guide requirements as a possibility. If they require a guide I will not put in and I think that would decrease the apps quite a bit
You would only have to pay for the tag if your name is up and there is still quota or season left. Itís $15 until that point


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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2018, 09:32:09 AM »
I think a non res tag in Alaska for grizzly is only 1k.I realize you have to hire a guide but 6k does seem high.  :twocents:

I was reading about this hunt somewhere yesterday. The AK grizzly hunt was brought up and it was said that an "average" guided grizzly hunt runs around $20k. I can't verify that, but that's what I read.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2018, 09:38:35 AM »
I havenít seen anything in Wyomingís proposal stating that a guide is required for nonresidents for grizzly bears. Just the requirement for guides in wilderness would apply I imagine

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2018, 09:55:09 AM »
So you draw, buy the tag on a Thursday and head towards Wyoming. They fill the quota Friday - are you out 6k?

Or is it only 2 active hunters at a time, then they call you once it's your turn?
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2018, 09:59:27 AM »
Man I must be pooríer than I think, none of this sounds cheap to me.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2018, 10:38:16 AM »
So you draw, buy the tag on a Thursday and head towards Wyoming. They fill the quota Friday - are you out 6k?

Or is it only 2 active hunters at a time, then they call you once it's your turn?
You canít get a tag unless the quota isnít met. As the proposals are written there is no chance of yu getting a tag and not being allowed to hunt
2 active tags at a time. Once they tag out if there is still quota then they will move down the list one at a time

This for hunt areas 1-6 (only ones nonres can apply for) if I read right

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2018, 10:45:05 AM »
First 75% of tags will go to residents. 10 male limit and 2 female limit for 2017. Very small odds of a nonres actually being able to hunt it seems but Iíll still be putting my name in

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2018, 11:19:16 AM »
So you draw, buy the tag on a Thursday and head towards Wyoming. They fill the quota Friday - are you out 6k?

Or is it only 2 active hunters at a time, then they call you once it's your turn?
You canít get a tag unless the quota isnít met. As the proposals are written there is no chance of yu getting a tag and not being allowed to hunt
2 active tags at a time. Once they tag out if there is still quota then they will move down the list one at a time

This for hunt areas 1-6 (only ones nonres can apply for) if I read right

Makes sense.  I think.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2018, 11:34:34 AM »
I wonder how much press these hunts will get, I remember how big of a deal the bison hunts were when they first started.  With drones and small cameras, there could be quite a circus although bears are much more spread out and the hunts won't be nearly as easy to figure out where they are happening.

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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2018, 11:52:13 AM »
Lots the tree huggers will try to apply to the public for sympathy

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2018, 12:33:59 PM »
I think a non res tag in Alaska for grizzly is only 1k.I realize you have to hire a guide but 6k does seem high.  :twocents:

I was reading about this hunt somewhere yesterday. The AK grizzly hunt was brought up and it was said that an "average" guided grizzly hunt runs around $20k. I can't verify that, but that's what I read.
I agree.  :tup: Thats what i was thinking around 20k maybe a little less but not much when all is said and done.Reason for the cost is no different in my OP. than anything else that is required.When rules like non res need to be guided the price can will and does skyrocket.  :twocents:These grizzly hunts in WY. will fetch a premium whether they have to have a guide or not.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2018, 02:50:32 PM »
I think a non res tag in Alaska for grizzly is only 1k.I realize you have to hire a guide but 6k does seem high.  :twocents:

I was reading about this hunt somewhere yesterday. The AK grizzly hunt was brought up and it was said that an "average" guided grizzly hunt runs around $20k. I can't verify that, but that's what I read.
I agree.  :tup: Thats what i was thinking around 20k maybe a little less but not much when all is said and done.Reason for the cost is no different in my OP. than anything else that is required.When rules like non res need to be guided the price can will and does skyrocket.  :twocents:These grizzly hunts in WY. will fetch a premium whether they have to have a guide or not.
Quite a few Alasakan grizzly hunts are 20-25k but you can find good ones for 10-15k range also. Not that the price is cheap... but I feel like saving up for a grizzly hunt in Alaska would be easier than this wait and see if drawn and then wait and see if quota was filled or not plus having to rush over to get your license and hunt without any real time to set things up 100%.

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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2018, 03:42:38 PM »
At that rate... you can save up for a couple years and just go to Alaska. Was just looking online and there are quite a few good looking outfitters, one in denali with really good reviews, that offer spring grizzly/brown bear hunts for $10,000 with a $2,000-$2,500 trophy fee. If its $1,000 for a tag then you are looking at $13,000-$13,500 not including getting up there but that's not bad for a true giant Alaskan grizzly. Imo, and this is just my opinion, I will save up my money and put it toward the Alaskan hunt with a guide.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2018, 03:58:26 PM »
At that rate... you can save up for a couple years and just go to Alaska. Was just looking online and there are quite a few good looking outfitters, one in denali with really good reviews, that offer spring grizzly/brown bear hunts for $10,000 with a $2,000-$2,500 trophy fee. If its $1,000 for a tag then you are looking at $13,000-$13,500 not including getting up there but that's not bad for a true giant Alaskan grizzly. Imo, and this is just my opinion, I will save up my money and put it toward the Alaskan hunt with a guide.
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Until they drop the price lol! My 300 wby mag needs to eat! I feel like grizzly would be its favorite meal!

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2018, 05:00:21 PM »
Walk up into the hills and fire a round off into the ground, bears will come running in looking for a gutpile. Thatís how you kill a Cody area Grizz.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2018, 05:10:43 PM »
I'm worried about the circus with this hunt and wish they had started a bit slower. I think just two tags the first year would be the right approach. Let people get used to hunting grizzlies little by little, and at levels where there's no question of damage to the population. Hopefully the hunters will be able to get away from people and keep the social media presence tasteful.

This will put hunting in the limelight worldwide with the type of hunt that attracts most criticism. I'd really like for us not to get Ceciled.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2018, 07:57:17 AM »
People need to get over the thought that some people will never be able to afford some hunts. Majority of the time that is self inflicted.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2018, 09:23:30 AM »
Agreed  :yeah:, I don't think that is the main in this thread though.The main is the good stuff like the opportunity is there now.Mostly going to be the residents but as a resident of WA. that's how i would want it here.  :tup: This is nothing but good for the sportsmen and women of WY. My hats off to them.The other main is that chances are much better,Bears are bigger,have more time to plan and hunt in Alaska plus like myself i'm sure that Alaskan hunts have always been on the bucket lists.
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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2018, 04:55:05 PM »
At that rate... you can save up for a couple years and just go to Alaska. Was just looking online and there are quite a few good looking outfitters, one in denali with really good reviews, that offer spring grizzly/brown bear hunts for $10,000 with a $2,000-$2,500 trophy fee. If its $1,000 for a tag then you are looking at $13,000-$13,500 not including getting up there but that's not bad for a true giant Alaskan grizzly. Imo, and this is just my opinion, I will save up my money and put it toward the Alaskan hunt with a guide.
One out  :IBCOOL:
Until they drop the price lol! My 300 wby mag needs to eat! I feel like grizzly would be its favorite meal!
Same here,i can wait.I wish the Montana opens Grizzly bear hunt soon and the license will cost less,i know a good area there with LOTS of Grizzlies.

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2018, 05:22:09 PM »
At that rate... you can save up for a couple years and just go to Alaska. Was just looking online and there are quite a few good looking outfitters, one in denali with really good reviews, that offer spring grizzly/brown bear hunts for $10,000 with a $2,000-$2,500 trophy fee. If its $1,000 for a tag then you are looking at $13,000-$13,500 not including getting up there but that's not bad for a true giant Alaskan grizzly. Imo, and this is just my opinion, I will save up my money and put it toward the Alaskan hunt with a guide.
One out  :IBCOOL:
Until they drop the price lol! My 300 wby mag needs to eat! I feel like grizzly would be its favorite meal!
Same here,i can wait.I wish the Montana opens Grizzly bear hunt soon and the license will cost less,i know a good area there with LOTS of Grizzlies.
Well when they open it back up for Montana I will probably try and get in on it! The dream is still a big 9'+ Kodiak grizzly some day!

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Re: Wy Grizzy hunting
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2018, 11:03:13 AM »
i may never apply but  i commented good work on restoring  the population to the point there can be minimal  management hope the stand upto the anti   

 

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