Bad Outfitters and what did you do?

[White Pass Outfitters]

Not defending anyone here just would need more information before I could make a judgement call. Why did this outfitter
 have to change dates, was it do to weather or his area got shut down or what ? The wonderful FS can shut down an area with no notice to the outfitter at all. Not saying this is the case just dont like people to bad mouth other people before putting all the info out there. If he is a Lic Outfitter you have a good chance of getting your money back or another hunt. But if you went with an illegal outfitter you dont have anything to stand on. And lesson learned only go with an lic outfitter.

[h20hunter]

Like WPO said.....way to much not being shared to even offer an opinion. If you want a legit discussion on an open forum, which I assume you do since you started the thread, you need to provide as much details as possible and frankly be willing to hear that maybe you not the outfitter are the issue. I have no idea since we have no info.

[Stein]

In your first post, you mentioned he cancelled his hunt and then in the second you mentioned he only changed the dates.

What does the contract say?  If he cancelled and didn't refund I would think you have a good case.  If he only changed the dates and that is allowed per the contract, then you are in a much weaker position.

[Alaskan]

I am actually not sure why he changed the dates. I speculate he couldn’t get the desired tags and eventually ran out of time.

[Stein]

He canceled and then kept your money.  Wow.  Sounds like it is more money than small claims court.  If it were me, I would ask him one more time for a full refund as the next time I ask it will be for a refund plus attorney and court fees.

[Alaskan]

WPO, I sent you a PM.

[kselkhunter]

PM sent.

[Alaskan]

KSLelk,
Thank you so much for the insight.

Got exactly what I needed from this thread!

[buckcanyonlodge]

One tip is a outfitter only taking cash is a big RED FLAG.

Not necessarily . I quit taking credit cards when merchant services started taking 5% of each transaction and upped my yearly fee from $80 to $800 . I told them to kiss off. Cash or check only for me. Of course I am a small operation...maybe that is why the stiff fees.

[Thenewguy]

One tip is a outfitter only taking cash is a big RED FLAG.

Not necessarily . I quit taking credit cards when merchant services started taking 5% of each transaction and upped my yearly fee from $80 to $800 . I told them to kiss off. Cash or check only for me. Of course I am a small operation...maybe that is why the stiff fees.

Buck, you need to work with a better bank man! I pay less then half with no annual fee

[buckcanyonlodge]

Who do you use?

[mtncook]

I"ve not been on the forum for some time and found this thread today.  I suggest contacting the Utah Licesning board.  An Outfitter Association c.an have a big influence on its members.  With that statement the Washington Rip Off that rymes with harbor is NOT a member of WOGA.   There are a few operating that make the rest of us suspicious.

mtncook

[elkrack]

Hope the best for ya! That’s a pain in the back side.

[CAMPMEAT]

If anybody took alot of money from me and not return it, I wouldn't pxxxyfoot around. I'd take my rearend down there and get it from him in person.     

[Skyvalhunter]

Is that *censored* foot?