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Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« on: October 02, 2010, 11:15:51 PM »
is it legal to spot light coyotes in Washington?
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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2010, 11:46:39 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/00766/wdfw00766.pdf


1. Hunting with artificial lights:
Hunting BIG GAME with the aid of an artificial
light or spotlight is prohibited.

Night Hunting and Hound Hunting
During Deer and Elk Hunting Seasons
Bobcat, raccoon, and coyote may be hunted at night during established bobcat and raccoon seasons, EXCEPT that it is unlawful to hunt any wildlife at night
or wild animals with dogs (hounds) during the months of September, October, or November in any area open to a centerfire rifle deer or elk season. The use of
hounds to hunt black bear, cougar, bobcat, or coyote is prohibited year round except during commission authorized hunts.

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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 07:16:10 AM »
Are coyotes considered BIG GAME?  I thought it is legal to spot light coyotes at night.  I was advised years ago that if you are going to spot light coyotes during modern firearm BIG GAME season you need to let the game department know ahead of time.  Although this was 14 years plus ago in Pullman.
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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 07:59:23 AM »
The way I understand it is you can spotlight coyotes but not during big game season. You must also wear hunters orange if that big game area requires it.
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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 08:05:16 AM »
It is ilegel to shoot under spot light during a big game season! There is nothing saying that you cant drive around with a spotlight on, but I wouldnt advise it. If there is no big game season open in the area you are in then tear em up.

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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 09:03:35 AM »
No they are not big game.
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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 09:09:35 AM »
I read Reg Rules. Look like I had to stop hunting Coons with hounds before Oct 16   :(  then start hunting After Elk Rifle Closed.  :) Possible use Spot Light Target Coon to Shoot down.  :chuckle:  I use my Helmetlight Attached with Belt battery instead Spotlight.
Spotlight is way too big Toy to use. Never used it.

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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 12:04:13 PM »
wait so that means i can night hunt till dear opens back up for modern firearm here in a week or so.

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RE: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 12:07:30 PM »
Sure sounds like it
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Re: can u spot light coyoted
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 12:34:54 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/00766/wdfw00766.pdf


1. Hunting with artificial lights:
Hunting BIG GAME with the aid of an artificial
light or spotlight is prohibited.

Night Hunting and Hound Hunting
During Deer and Elk Hunting Seasons
Bobcat, raccoon, and coyote may be hunted at night during established bobcat and raccoon seasons, EXCEPT that it is unlawful to hunt any wildlife at night
or wild animals with dogs (hounds) during the months of September, October, or November in any area open to a centerfire rifle deer or elk season. The use of
hounds to hunt black bear, cougar, bobcat, or coyote is prohibited year round except during commission authorized hunts.




You have to read them very carefully.  Hunting coyotes at night with lights is legal.  They are not big game.  You CANNOT hunt them at night in Sept, Oct, or Nov IF the area is open to CENTERFIRE RIFLE for deer and elk.  Notice it does not say "modern firearms" it specifies "centerfire rifle".

If you are like me and live in a unit that is never open to "rifles" you can hunt coyotes as well as bobcats and raccoons in Sept, Oct and Nov but you have to also read the legal hunting hours rules on page 68.

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*These are lawful hunting hours (one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset) for game animals and forest grouse (ruffed, blue, spruce) during
established seasons. Exceptions: (a) Bobcat and raccoon are exempt from hunting hour restrictions during established bobcat and raccoon seasons except
when that area is open to modern firearm hunting of deer or elk, hunting hours shall be one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset. (b) Hunting
hours for falconry seasons (except migratory game bird seasons) are exempt from these hunting hours, except on designated pheasant release sites.


Notice that there is an exception to the hunting hours for bobcat and raccoon but it does not mention coyotes.   :dunno:  This section now says you cannot hunt bobcats and raccoons at night WHEN that area is open to MODERN FIREARMS HUNTING OF DEER AD ELK.  Notice is says "modern firearms" and not "centerfire rifle".

What does this all mean?  It means, IMO, that you cannot hunt coyotes or bobcats and raccoons at night, in most units, during Sept, Oct and Nov unless that area is closed to centerfire rifle.  I say that because the regs say "IF" the area is open to "CENTERFIRE RIFLE" not "when".  

Am I way off?
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 12:44:46 PM by Kain »

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 03:34:19 PM »
I dont believe you are.. (well said). I do think they made it far more confusing that it ever needed to be though

I'm all for making sure precisely worded regs are made available, but if theyre too precise, they end up doing more to confuse people, than act to clarify. ...Maybe they should just write the regs like we're all beyond stupid  :P
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 12:57:37 AM »
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Notice that there is an exception to the hunting hours for bobcat and raccoon but it does not mention coyotes.   Dunno   This section now says you cannot hunt bobcats and raccoons at night WHEN that area is open to MODERN FIREARMS HUNTING OF DEER AD ELK.  Notice is says "modern firearms" and not "centerfire rifle".

There isn't a season for yotes so they state it by the coon and bobcat seasons.
So if you are in a centerfire legal area during elk and deer season you can't light em at night.
But if you are in a 'restricted weapon' area (shotgun muzzy and archery) you can light em all year
And if  your centerfire legal area is closed for deer and elk you can hunt at night.
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2010, 09:26:26 AM »
If your using a spotlight at night, have a PREDATOR CAll. That's what the local game warden says.  :twocents:
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2010, 09:25:11 PM »
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Notice that there is an exception to the hunting hours for bobcat and raccoon but it does not mention coyotes.   Dunno   This section now says you cannot hunt bobcats and raccoons at night WHEN that area is open to MODERN FIREARMS HUNTING OF DEER AD ELK.  Notice is says "modern firearms" and not "centerfire rifle".

There isn't a season for yotes so they state it by the coon and bobcat seasons.
So if you are in a centerfire legal area during elk and deer season you can't light em at night.
But if you are in a 'restricted weapon' area (shotgun muzzy and archery) you can light em all year
And if  your centerfire legal area is closed for deer and elk you can hunt at night.
 :dunno:

shotgun=modern firearm, does not say anything about centerfire gun.  it says modern. so during archery/muzzleloader season you can but during any area that is open during deer/elk season don't even try. 

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 09:41:53 PM »
If your using a spotlight at night, have a PREDATOR CAll. That's what the local game warden says.  :twocents:

I cant find that in the regs. I go by the black and white book that they are suppose to enforce by. What idiot what make a coment that you have to have a call to spotlight. Just dont do it during a big game season, plain and simple.

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2010, 09:43:55 PM »
Not cool.  Taken the wrong way i assume but not cool.
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2010, 09:43:42 PM »
If your using a spotlight at night, have a PREDATOR CAll. That's what the local game warden says.  :twocents:

I cant find that in the regs. I go by the black and white book that they are suppose to enforce by. What idiot what make a coment that you have to have a call to spotlight. Just dont do it during a big game season, plain and simple.

Straight from the Game Wardens mouth is where that came from. And : suppose to enforce by. is a good one. The call is to prove ? you're hunting coyotes at night ??? Ya got me. :twocents:
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2010, 09:47:49 PM »
Reread the simple question posted. Can you spotlight Coyotes? It asks nothing about who, what, where or when. Yes you can spotlight coyotes. :beatdeadhorse:
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2010, 11:05:48 PM »
You don't need a predator call, could care less what this or that enforcement officer "thinks" is needed or not.  Plenty of bobcats, coons, fox and yotes have met their demise by a lip squeak or a kiss to the back of your hand.  Some of these guys crack me up, from LEO's who teach RCWs and don't have a clue what the laws says to guys making stuff up on their own.

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2010, 06:59:15 PM »
You don't need a predator call, could care less what this or that enforcement officer "thinks" is needed or not.  Plenty of bobcats, coons, fox and yotes have met their demise by a lip squeak or a kiss to the back of your hand.  Some of these guys crack me up, from LEO's who teach RCWs and don't have a clue what the laws says to guys making stuff up on their own.

Exactly... :)
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 08:45:13 PM »
Thank the WDFW for clearing that up and clarifying the rules for us...............Its almost my favorite thing.....Late muzzle loader, spot a bull coming out to feed before dark, walk in the next morning before light, see some a-hole running a spotlight for "coyotes and such", walk back to my truck and thank the WDFW for all the great things they do.  Happened twice last year.  No you can't spot coyotes any more dang it.  Tell everyone its closed until Dec 16.  I call B.S.

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 08:58:43 PM »
Thank the WDFW for clearing that up and clarifying the rules for us...............Its almost my favorite thing.....Late muzzle loader, spot a bull coming out to feed before dark, walk in the next morning before light, see some a-hole running a spotlight for "coyotes and such", walk back to my truck and thank the WDFW for all the great things they do.  Happened twice last year.  No you can't spot coyotes any more dang it.  Tell everyone its closed until Dec 16.  I call B.S.

So the way I'm reading your post is that a-holes shouldn't be able to enjoy their type of legal hunting until your done with yours?  :dunno: Sure it's an unfortunate incident, last year we called in a big bull elk within 50 yds and was about to seal the deal when a grouse hunter came up a old road about 290yrds away on his wheeler, all we needed was about 20 more seconds, last we saw of that bull. Got to take it in stride
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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2010, 05:42:39 AM »
Why do modern hunters get the special privelage of no spot lighting during their seasons?  The right thing to do and the easy way to clear up any confusion is to not allow spot lighting during any general seasons.  People out hunting coyotes and such have other methods they can use during daylight hours.  I cannot hunt elk/deer at night.  Spot lighters can cover a lot of ground and spook every big game animal for miles back into the brush before dawn.

Don't get me wrong I hope everyone enjoys "Their type of legal hunting" but the rules shouldn't be so twisted that its got to screw up other seasons.  I go out spot lighting critters on occasion, but never during a big game season.  Just isn't right IMO.  Besides there are plenty of poachers out there and its pretty easy to say a deer or elk that was shot at night was taken during the day.  "I'm just out hunting coyotes"...............Yeah I bet all the lights we see during our M.L. elk season are just hunting critters......Not a chance.  Just giving poachers less of a chance at getting caught.

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2010, 08:03:53 AM »
Limiting hunters methods and opportunities because someone might break the law is terrible for all of us.  We fought this same flawed logic for archery and MZ hunters to carry sidearms for protection.  They just knew we were all poachers trying to get away with something. Once you get rid of night hunting during general seasons are you going to go after predator callers or hound hunters?  I mean they are out there making all sort of noise and ruining your hunting grounds.  And those pesky bear and small game hunters are out there with RIFLES during archery and MZ.  Cant have that, after all they are probably just poachers, right?  Got to make it like the new cougar rules.   :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

It is no wonder we are all loosing opportunities in this state when we have every different user group turning against the others.  Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.  I think they closed night hunting, during modern firearms, due to safety concerns not for special treatment.  Just like hunter orange is required only for modern firearms.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2010, 10:08:26 AM by Kain »

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Re: Can You Spot Light Coyotes?
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2010, 11:21:04 AM »
Why not just avoid all the drama and confusion and get a night vision scope???

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