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Finding a broken water line.......
« on: April 11, 2011, 07:33:05 PM »
City of Chehalis water works feller swung by today, said I have a leaking waterline. Made sure all  water was shut off, check the meter, yep, she was spinnin. Crawl under the house, nothin! Follow the line from the road to the house, nothing! Boy and I grid off the yard, nothin!! What is the next move?

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 07:36:08 PM »
dig

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 07:40:39 PM »
oh man that cant be good....  hope its not in your walls or under your concrete somewhere.

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 07:41:30 PM »
I was going to say....If you can locate the way the pipe is ran, start digging......I  would dig every few feet  or so till you discover the leak........
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 07:45:33 PM »
Do you have a shut-off at the house ?
if not, find where it enters house, shut off at street and install one.
then see if it is between meter and house.

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 07:52:08 PM »
dig

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If you are absoultely 100% that it is between the main and the house sometimes it is easyier just to run new poly line from the main and tie it in at the house.  A leak in the line can be hard to find if your land percolates well. 
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 07:53:59 PM »
No shut off at the house, sounds like a plan. 2 years ago, we had one that took 2 months to surface, it was a $3000.00 water bill, that thankfully they ate. I had a line that went out to nowhere, that was cracked. Its a farm house that got sub-divded into 5 acre parcels, I have the original "farm house".  Got only knows where other lines are at, and the damned ground is so saturated, its hard to find anything "wet".

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 08:01:08 PM »
  same thing happened to me about 10 years ago. water meter on the street was a spinning with water valve shut off at the house.
  Our ground is so rocky here the water was going straight down with no visible water showing anywhere. after talking with the water district yah-whos I dug out by the meter and by where it was hooked up by the house. no water. With my line going under my drive way It was a fair assumption I had a hole in my line some where between the house and the meter, probably under my driveway.
  So I just put a new line in from the meter to the house. and buried it in some nice fill dirt with no rocks and have not had a problem since. Just make sure you are doing it to code. I would also put caution tape a foot or so above it.  Good luck

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 08:21:47 PM »
Make sure your toilet is not running. Somtimes they do not make any noise. Pour some coffie or juice in it and see if it swirls. :IBCOOL:

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 08:33:35 PM »
Any construction around the house ? Sewer/water line installs ?
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 08:34:03 PM »
Call one of those "Call before you dig" places and have them locate the water line, starting at the meter. That way you are not searching for a needle in a hay stack and will only have to dig where the line is. Look for any trees next to the line, settling ground, etc.
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 08:41:43 PM »
Good luck. There always seems to be something to fix when you're a homeowner.  I hope I don't get a leak in the line from the meter to the house, I've got 800' of 2" poly pipe ran out to the street!

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 09:05:09 PM »
look for the wet spot! :chuckle:
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 09:24:16 PM »
Call one of those "Call before you dig" places and have them locate the water line, starting at the meter. That way you are not searching for a needle in a hay stack and will only have to dig where the line is. Look for any trees next to the line, settling ground, etc.

That's a good idea.  You'll probably have to pay for it because I think they only do free locates on the right of way.

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 09:34:44 PM »
If you get the water line located, walk along it and stick a shovel in the ground every three feet and put your ear on the top of the handle. Had a leaky water line years ago and was told about this and it worked. You should be able to hear the water leak unless as you have said, that the ground is completely water logged. Good luck.

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2011, 09:38:01 PM »
Call one of those "Call before you dig" places and have them locate the water line, starting at the meter. That way you are not searching for a needle in a hay stack and will only have to dig where the line is. Look for any trees next to the line, settling ground, etc.
this will work if the line is metal, most newer homes use polly pipe for water and they can not locate that. I suggest witching for the water line. It does work I use the witching method to find the existing water line when I buit my house. Good luck
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2011, 09:38:42 PM »
The 'Call before you dig' agents will not check for lines on private property. How far is it from the meter to the house? Split the distance. Dig. Install ball valve. Close it. Meter still spinning? If yes, dig half way from new valve to the meter. Install another ball valve. You get the idea. 

Now.. If you've got soft soil and know where other buried utilities are, you can rent a ditchwitch that will dig, AND install new poly line from the meter all the way to the house. Attach brand new line to the meter and the house. Case solved and is relatively inexpensive for a weekend's work. Actually, it's a whole lot less work than lookin for the leak. Also a whole lot better to replace the old galvanized line from the meter to the house. No more rusty water. Tap from that new polyline to the outdoor hydrants that you want to operate. No more guess work for your older farm property.

An aquantence of our had a leak from her well to the house this winter. Cost her $4,000 for the crew to find the leak.  I could have run her a complete new line for less than a grand!

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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2011, 09:39:54 PM »
It was snowing when mine broke, I got lucky, only spot with no snow.  The shovel thing sounds good??
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2011, 09:49:58 PM »
Call one of those "Call before you dig" places and have them locate the water line, starting at the meter. That way you are not searching for a needle in a hay stack and will only have to dig where the line is. Look for any trees next to the line, settling ground, etc.

FYI  They will not locate water lines. When we had our leak last year, they said they don't locate water lines. Everything else yea.

Start turning off toilet shutoff valves, or put the leak test die in the tank.
Check your water meter for a valve on the house side of the valve, ours had 2.
Look for a green patch of grass. Ours did not show a wet spot. We started digging at the house towards the meter.
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2011, 10:47:23 PM »
Metal detector, should tell you where the pipe is....
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 05:34:44 AM »
Do you know anyone with a thermal image camera?  Picks up the slightest change in surface temperature.  Has worked for me in the past.  Helps to have an idea of where the line runs.
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2011, 05:36:50 AM »
Witching is the way to go.2 brazing rods.Bend about a 6 inch 90 in them.Hold them out level and walk across where you think the line is at.The rods will split and follow the line.MOve a few feet do it again etc.That will help you find where the line lays.It works Ive done a bunch of them.

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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2011, 05:52:55 AM »
I have an issue with my underground main too. I dug it up last year and found two other repairs on it already and this was a different spot. I need to dig it all out and replace it. I don't need anymore surprise water bills anymore. I suppose it is a gamble in a way because you can't see what is underground. But if you had trouble there before, there is a good chance of happening again. Plus it is good exercise to dig it up, only makes you healthier. Good luck.
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Re: Finding a broken water line.......
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 05:57:23 AM »
Go down to Home Depot and get a group of "day laborers" and you will have your yard dug up quick.  :chuckle:
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Or go to the local taco wagon.  :chuckle:

 



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