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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2011, 12:23:07 PM »
30/06.  Wider range of bullets.  Perfect all-purpose imo.  And for bear, a .270 will deffinatly do the job, I have seen plenty killed with it, but a .30?06 puts them down faster, and less chance of loosing one.
"Puts them down faster", really, i mean really......
From the Sierra reloading manual....."To try to compare the .270 with the .30-06 is a fruitless venture. Both have recieved many credits from countless shooters". I have both and it's a flip of the coin of which I'll use on any given day.
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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2011, 12:25:23 PM »
The only real difference I see between the two, is with recoil. With the 270 you can use 130 grain bullets. 30-06, the lightest practical weight is 150. So you're going to have less recoil with the 270, if that matters. I don't believe there is any practical difference in killing ability between the two.

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 12:41:54 PM »
.270 is a great round, got one in a Mauser action.

But, I think the 30-06 is a round every shooter should own though, at least at some point in your shooting days,  like a .22, 30-30 and 12GA.   The 30-06 has some real history behind it.. :twocents:   Got a Model of 1917 Winchester, WWI era in 30-06 looking back at me right now...
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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 12:45:18 PM »
The only real difference I see between the two, is with recoil. With the 270 you can use 130 grain bullets. 30-06, the lightest practical weight is 150. So you're going to have less recoil with the 270, if that matters. I don't believe there is any practical difference in killing ability between the two.
ya your right bobcat but I swear by the hornaday 140 gr bullet out of the .270 ... 130 of course was made for it but I have dropped a few animals from all different rangers with this bullet and I am telling you their is a huge difference and without bragging I  ask you to please try them and see what i am saying ... peace brother !!  how far do you think it might be if you had a .270 zeroed in at 1 1/4 in. at 100yrds from center of bulleye and had a bear on Washington pass and you hold over his back by putting the hair line of his back at the very bottom of the scope and squeeze the trigger and the gun goes bang and after what seems to be minutes after the report the bear rolls down the mountain ....luck or serious killing power .. not being a smart a$$ but definately true !!plus a complete pass threw taking out one shoulder and coming out behind the other ....

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 12:48:29 PM »
30/06.  Wider range of bullets.  Perfect all-purpose imo.  And for bear, a .270 will deffinatly do the job, I have seen plenty killed with it, but a .30?06 puts them down faster, and less chance of loosing one.
"Puts them down faster", really, i mean really......
From the Sierra reloading manual....."To try to compare the .270 with the .30-06 is a fruitless venture. Both have recieved many credits from countless shooters". I have both and it's a flip of the coin of which I'll use on any given day.
buckmark ...have you ever tried a hornaday 140 boattail out of your .270 ? I agree about opinion but to me its fact ... just please try it and shoot that bear deadcenter threw the shoulders and watch what happens next ...thats all ... just friendly conversion ... :chuckle:

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2011, 01:03:23 PM »
.270 is a great round, got one in a Mauser action.

But, I think the 30-06 is a round every shooter should own though, at least at some point in your shooting days,  like a .22, 30-30 and 12GA.   The 30-06 has some real history behind it.. :twocents:   Got a Model of 1917 Winchester, WWI era in 30-06 looking back at me right now...
hahaha ya i guess but a 30-06 is so over rated it bugs me..... maybe because I am a fan of smaller calipers ... I love taking animals out with smaller calipers and at longer ranges...if everyone would just please load up some hornaday 140 gr boattails and use imr 4831 and shot that thing in at 1 1/4 high at 100 yrds and anything within 300yrds put it dead center on the shoulder deer bear or whatever and SQUEEZE the trigger and please let me know if the shot was true and what happened to the victum....please give it a try so I can shut up !!! now I am being friendly so please do not get in a pi$$ing match over anything ... just opinion and logic ... :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2011, 01:10:26 PM »
30/06.  Wider range of bullets.  Perfect all-purpose imo.  And for bear, a .270 will deffinatly do the job, I have seen plenty killed with it, but a .30?06 puts them down faster, and less chance of loosing one.
"Puts them down faster", really, i mean really......
From the Sierra reloading manual....."To try to compare the .270 with the .30-06 is a fruitless venture. Both have recieved many credits from countless shooters". I have both and it's a flip of the coin of which I'll use on any given day.
buckmark ...have you ever tried a hornaday 140 boattail out of your .270 ? I agree about opinion but to me its fact ... just please try it and shoot that bear deadcenter threw the shoulders and watch what happens next ...thats all ... just friendly conversion ... :chuckle:
??? is it the 140gr hornady that kills the bear or the rifle?? I have not tried a 140 out of my .270, the only .270 i own is a weatherby (different subject), but i have shoot alot of animals with a model 70 in 30/06, Bar 30/06, a-bolt 7mm mag, Bar 300mag, and even a few deer with my little old Rem .244, and quite a few others, cant say anyone put them down faster than the other.....Should get a .50bmg, then they would just faint at the site of it... :chuckle:, just freindly conversation....
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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2011, 01:13:11 PM »
A .277 140 grain bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2950 ft/second and a ballistic coefficient of .495 (Hornady .277 140 grain SST) sighted in 1.25" high at 100 yards is approximately 7" below line of sight at 300 yards.

A .308 caliber (i.e. 30-06) 165 grain bullet with a similar ballistic coefficient, a muzzle velocity of 2800 ft/second and also sighted in 1.25" high at 100 yards is approximately 9" low at 300 yards.

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2011, 01:15:14 PM »
Hey any caliber that's 105 years old can't help but be over rated a bit :chuckle:


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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2011, 01:42:14 PM »
hey no problem ...I always seem to get involved in this subject ..someday I will learn .......hell in all respect it is a 30-06 necked down to .277 so maybe I am over the edge , :tup: then it is definately the bullet ....

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2011, 02:24:10 PM »
Hard choice. Both are time proven cartridges. Read some reloading manuals, or read a few articals on each. Either way, you are a winner!
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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2011, 10:27:19 PM »
I've got one of each and really love em both.
They're almost ballistically twins for mid weight bullets.
Because you said elk, I'd recommend the 06 but only because it'll shoot heavier bullets than the 270. Either way, I'd recommend a load incorporating one of the super premium bullets available today.
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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2011, 11:18:49 PM »
once again the obvious winning answer is to buy one of each. doi
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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2011, 08:37:57 AM »
once again the obvious winning answer is to buy one of each. doi

Should'a been the first reply :chuckle:

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Re: .270 win VS 30-06
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2011, 08:53:13 AM »
My record on Elk is 21 Shot at, 20 Killed.  I used a .270 one time.  Guess what I was using on the one I lost ?  Hit 4 times still got away.  Bullet Diameter is important on elk - which is why the .338 is better than the .300.  I've used both a lot and the elk get stopped quicker with the .338. 

I know people who love the .270 because they can blast in the shoulder and not ruing too much meat.  If you use one adopt that strategy.  I'd step up to an elk rifle if hunting elk.  The .270 can be used for elk but it is Not an elk rifle.

 


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