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.375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« on: July 29, 2008, 08:19:24 PM »
Well, I had the chance to fire a friends .375 Ruger and his .338 Ultra using 300 grain bullets, and I would just have to say it was a BLAST.

Thoroughly enjoyed it, and was surprised that it wasn't that punishing at all. At 250 yards, both rifles were dead on, with very little drop from a 100 yard zero. Quite the surprise to me, and unexpected.

Makes me wonder how a .375 Ultra Mag would kick now.....and how it would work on elk????  :drool: :drool:

Only fired each about a dozen times, and all standing. Don't think I'd be interested in bench shootin' them much.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 11:27:38 PM »
I myself would buy the 375 Ruger over any Ultra Mag over 30 caliber. I would love to be able to fire the Ruger, as I really like the looks of the Alaskan rifles.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 03:31:54 PM »
Littletoes, whered your buddy pick up his .375 at ? Ive been looking to handle one and nobody here in the Spokane area has one yet. just curious.


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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 03:45:17 PM »
MountainWalk, Why wouldn't you want any ultra mag over .30 cal?  Just curious as I've heard good things about .338 ultra mag.

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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 03:48:45 PM »
I have a 375 ultra and its was not pleasant to shoot without a break.  The H&H and the Ruger are not bad.  I put a break on the ultra and it tolerable but thats it.  I think the Ruger and the H&H are closer to each other where as the 375 ultra and the 378 Weatherby more comparable.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 07:07:46 PM »
I have a 338 ultra that I shoot 250gr. Barnes triple shock bullets, 87gr. of R25, and 9.5RM primers. Its a great gun. Remington 700 ADL. My fathers 300 min mag in the Ruger M77 kicks more with its thin little synthetic stock. The 338 isn't a gun you want to shoot 20 rounds out of, but that's more because of the price  :'(If anyone has brass I'm always looking.

PS. where did you get the 300gr. loads for the 338 ultra, what are the ballistics like? I think that could be my new bear load...
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 07:39:36 PM »
MountainWalk, Why wouldn't you want any ultra mag over .30 cal?  Just curious as I've heard good things about .338 ultra mag.


It is my belief, that once you get to around 250 grains of bullet and faster than 2800fps, all your getting is more kick and blast. Besides, the big guns are not the same thing as a 300, or a 7mag. There isnt anything the 338 ultra can do that the old 338 cant. Same for the 375 ultra in regards to the 375 ruger or hh.  I really like the case of the ruger. Looks like its an easy feeding round, not all sharp shouldered like the big ultras or wby's.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 07:44:37 PM »
Can they produce 4500 ft. lbs out of the barrel? I like my 338 ultra alot. A 7mm mag and an 30/06 will do the same thing. Don't get this belief going that a person only needs one gun. Its like golfing, do you use the same club all day long, I hope not. Depends on the shot. This is what I tell my wife anyway that way I can keep buying guns. There are 100's of types of shot possibilities, so I guess I need 100's of guns.  :chuckle:
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 07:57:49 PM »
I dont put much stock in muzzle energy.  I like strait line penetration, which is easier with bullets of high sectional density doing moderate speeds.  BC means little to me either. All im after is one complete strait line, entry to exit. BTW I use my 338 for almost everything. I find, the more I shoot it, like anything else, I get better with it.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 08:20:17 PM »
What the hell are you guys hunting that you need these guns anyway? I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm taking my 338 of just using one of my 7mags for my moose hunt. That 7 mag is plenty of gun for most anything here in the states, are you going to Africa or something? I don't know why I'm even having second thoughts about it really, just some of the posts on here got me thinking about it. Honestly I havn't heard anything compelling enough to justify bringing the 338 but I havn't ruled it out completely yet. Just curious why you need such a large caliber for hunting here :dunno:
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 08:22:49 PM »
Differant strokes for differant folks!

There IS a differance....thats why they make the .50 BMG    :drool:  and yes, I've fired one of dose too! 650 grains of pure kick ass, but thats another story!

Yep, he picked it up in Spookaloo, not sure where, maybe "Dave's". If you would like I could ask him. He's chronyed his rounds too after load work.  

Pulled the .338 Ultra out of the factory stock, put it in a Choate. Funny thing, I didn't think either rifle kicked that bad.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 08:24:26 PM »
Besides, the big guns are FUN to shoot!
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 08:31:48 PM »
Its not "NEED" its WANT!!!

Its America! Why the hell not???? Think of it like that.  :chuckle:

If I was to hunt moose, I'd use the .338, not because I'd need it, more moose have been killed with the 'ol '06 than most anything else, I'd use the .338 because I WANTED too.

You don't have a rifle that your Dad gave you, your wife, or just something special you want to keep the memories with????

Think if it like this, you IZ gonna die someday, and that rifle will (hopefully) be passed down to some grandkid or nephew or something, and maybe them "memories" or thoughts will go with it....who knows, but I have a favorite load, favorite rifle combo that I just enjoy shootin'.

Good Luck with that Moose!
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 08:38:08 PM »
Sure there is a difference but I dont see anyone packing around a 50 BMG to hunt elk, although those 1000 yard shots would be fun :chuckle:
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 08:43:48 PM »

Its America! Why the hell not???? Think of it like that.  :chuckle:
Good Luck with that Moose!

Actually the rifle is just for backup, the plan is to stick him with an arrow :chuckle: However, should that bull that "you just can't take a chance loosing" show up I may break down and pull the trigger.

I hear ya on the the quote though, thats why my safe is full too :chuckle:
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2008, 09:53:37 PM »
I think I would rather have my 338Ultra when a 1000lb grizzle is charging me because I accidentally got between her and her cubs and she just wants to kill me. I have a 7mm mag, it would work, but I would rather have a little more POWER if my life depends on it, and you just never know... :o
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 05:06:16 PM »
I think I would rather have my 338Ultra when a 1000lb grizzle is charging me because I accidentally got between her and her cubs and she just wants to kill me. I have a 7mm mag, it would work, but I would rather have a little more POWER if my life depends on it, and you just never know... :o

*censored*, there is a better chance of me getting shot by a gang bangor out here in Tacoma than to see a Griz out there, no worries
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2008, 09:19:10 PM »
You dont live in Curlew, there are 40 pair that are collared from Ferry to the Idaho boarder on the Canadian boarder. The boarder patrol got a nice pic 3 miles from my house last year of one sniffing one of their cameras. They are where I live... :o
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 01:05:53 PM »
I iz just a few below you TeacherMan, what  cha' teach? Hopefully not english! Wife says I type like a retard.... :IBCOOL:

Have 'nuther friend that has everything on the shelf to build a four-five-eight, didn't think I'd want to shoot it, but I just might want too now.

Talked to them by-all-a-gists, they don tolt me that if there was two grizzes in worshing-ton at any one time, we'd be lucky....just more prop-o-ganda to fuel the non huntin' types....but yep, there iz 'bout 28 on the books though.

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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2008, 04:10:10 PM »
Shoot, if I had a four five eight, I would prolly elk hunt with it. I just like the big guns. They are lots of fun to shoot once you learn how to roll with them.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2008, 05:13:19 PM »
The reason I have a 375 ultra is for brownies in AK and it feels really small when your in the thick stuff looking for a 1000lb carnivor.  My next big bore will either be a 416 Weatherby or a 378 Weatherby.  Most likely a 416.
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2008, 07:20:20 PM »
If I had any one of them, I'd hunt with em too!

I think it would be fun, and would get 'er done, thats fer sure!
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2008, 07:37:59 PM »
Damn, I was thinking about the 325wsm, and I thought that might be too much gun for what I need. You can only kill them so dead.  :chuckle:
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2008, 07:44:44 AM »
I was checking the ballistics of the 375 Ultra and the 378 Weatherby....they are so close that I just don't think there is enough differance between 'em to justify the purchase...UNLESS you just "want" one, I get THAT.

Think I would pick on the 416 Rigby myself. No belt, and room for plenty of powder, pluss it has a "History".

What cha think??
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Re: .375 Ruger VS .338 Ultra
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2008, 08:26:44 PM »
The Rigby wouldnt be a bad choice and it would have plenty tradition behind it, but if I had to go over 375 and under 458, I would take a 416 Remington.  But I couldnt argue with anyone that wanted a Rigby.
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