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WDFW Poll
« on: May 06, 2012, 05:41:09 PM »
Have at it.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 05:56:50 PM »
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 07:03:57 PM »
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 07:13:34 PM »
I am the one vote for Yay!...We have great opportunity in this state.  Everywhere else I have lived, has all been a lottery system, even for residents.  We have moose, goats, deer, elk, sheep, ducks, geese, rabbits, upland birds, coyotes we can shoot at night, cougars, bobcats, etc...lots of species, lots of opportunities, and lots of land...

the only thing to complain about is the prices, and the season timing...I think they should move all seasons 10-15 days to the right, and of course lower the prices, or include a Discover pass if you spend over $200 on hunting/fishing licenses, etc...

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 07:35:20 PM »
I wouldn't say they're out of touch. No they don't necessarily set the seasons and the rules just the way we all would like. But then how many of us on here agree on any one topic? If anything, in my opinion, they try too hard to cater to the public's every little whim.

They have worked at simplifying regulations the past several years. I don't agree with the extra categories they came up with for special permit hunts, but some people actually liked the change. I don't like that they try to whittle away at bear and cougar seasons every chance they get. But, they did just give us back our 7-month any weapon cougar season, statewide. So gotta give 'em credit for that.

I have to agree with Weazle- we've got it pretty good right now.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 07:51:36 PM »
I am the one vote for Yay!...We have great opportunity in this state.  Everywhere else I have lived, has all been a lottery system, even for residents.  We have moose, goats, deer, elk, sheep, ducks, geese, rabbits, upland birds, coyotes we can shoot at night, cougars, bobcats, etc...lots of species, lots of opportunities, and lots of land...

the only thing to complain about is the prices, and the season timing...I think they should move all seasons 10-15 days to the right, and of course lower the prices, or include a Discover pass if you spend over $200 on hunting/fishing licenses, etc...

Yes Washington is a great chunk of real estate for all those critters, its diverse and could hold a whole lot more of those critters with better management.
 
We should have a world class Elk oppertunity here, as good or better then our Turkey and Cougars.
 
I think it could be a lot better.
 
 

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 07:57:22 PM »
WDFW has been infiltrated and has sold out to the tree hugging, unshaved, birckenstock wearing rainbow coalition types....  Yea... Olympia, I am talking about your sorry, pork stuffed asses.....

They could not give a rat's ass about the hunters in this state....  All they care about is money,,,, and where the next place is that they can rip us off for another buck...  less quality opportunities... higher and higher license and tag prices...   They should have to go on a fixed income like the rest of us... MAYBE, quit spending money on freaking wolves.....   :bash: :bash: :bash:

They are counting on the working hard to make a living guys like me to keep them in business because we can not afford to hunt anywhere else....

By my honorable conduct as a hunter let me give a good example and teach new hunters principles of honor, so that each new generation can show respect for their god, other hunters and the animals, and enjoy the dignity of the hunt.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 08:00:02 PM »
well, you said it a little more robustly than I did - but ya  :tup:

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 08:51:34 PM »
Actually I think the employees of wdfw do the best they can under circumstances beyond their control.  If the legislature and lawmakers and bureaucracy would stop making everything so much more difficult than it needs to be I think we would see a very different more productive wdfw.  Its kinda like when people blame teachers for doing there job the best they can while working under a government instituted system of *censored* that makes blowing your nose require an act of congress. 

We the people hired the idiots that made this mess now we the people need to unhire them or prepare to see things continue to just get worse and worse  :dunno: :dunno:

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2012, 08:52:55 PM »
I wouldn't say they're out of touch. No they don't necessarily set the seasons and the rules just the way we all would like. But then how many of us on here agree on any one topic? If anything, in my opinion, they try too hard to cater to the public's every little whim.

They have worked at simplifying regulations the past several years. I don't agree with the extra categories they came up with for special permit hunts, but some people actually liked the change. I don't like that they try to whittle away at bear and cougar seasons every chance they get. But, they did just give us back our 7-month any weapon cougar season, statewide. So gotta give 'em credit for that.

I have to agree with Weazle- we've got it pretty good right now.

 :yeah:  Bobcat said what I was trying to say a whole lot better...
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2012, 08:56:02 PM »
We are NOT concerned with the help. We are concerned with those who make the decisions. WOW you had to bring the guvment teachers here? LETS JUST STAY ON TOPIC SHALL WE! You have earned your handle bub.

In case you havent noticed; all BC does is carry the water for WDFW.

If WDFW was any better to me, i might have an orgasm. We got it pretty good right now? WTF man. You are loony. Next you will tell us we should lick the boot that kicks us.
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 08:57:09 PM »
WDFW has been infiltrated and has sold out to the tree hugging, unshaved, birckenstock wearing rainbow coalition types....  Yea... Olympia, I am talking about your sorry, pork stuffed asses.....

They could not give a rat's ass about the hunters in this state....  All they care about is money,,,, and where the next place is that they can rip us off for another buck...  less quality opportunities... higher and higher license and tag prices...   They should have to go on a fixed income like the rest of us... MAYBE, quit spending money on freaking wolves.....   :bash: :bash: :bash:

They are counting on the working hard to make a living guys like me to keep them in business because we can not afford to hunt anywhere else....

Right on Huntbare.  WDFW and its commissioners worry to much about the critter observing, bird watching, wolf loving liberal extremist's.  The hunter's in this state pay to play, therefore pay the bill's so we should be listened to and taken more serious. :twocents:   JMHO

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 09:06:35 PM »
We are NOT concerned with the help. We are concerned with those who make the decisions. WOW you had to bring the guvment teachers here? LETS JUST STAY ON TOPIC SHALL WE! You have earned your handle bub.

In case you havent noticed; all BC does is carry the water for WDFW.

were you speaking to me? 

you sound like your knickers are in a knot :dunno:

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2012, 09:41:11 PM »
I wouldn't say they're out of touch. No they don't necessarily set the seasons and the rules just the way we all would like. But then how many of us on here agree on any one topic? If anything, in my opinion, they try too hard to cater to the public's every little whim.

They have worked at simplifying regulations the past several years. I don't agree with the extra categories they came up with for special permit hunts, but some people actually liked the change. I don't like that they try to whittle away at bear and cougar seasons every chance they get. But, they did just give us back our 7-month any weapon cougar season, statewide. So gotta give 'em credit for that.

I have to agree with Weazle- we've got it pretty good right now.

What about the wolf plan they came up with.  That isn't going to help the deer/elk and us hunters any.  And sure they gave us back the cougar season, but they shouldn't have taken it away to begin with, so they don't deserve credit for that.

What about them trying to take away night hunting for coyotes?  That is a great method for taking out the fawn eaters and yet they tried to do away with.  They will likely try again.

What about their rule change a couple years ago that prevents a dog to be with you when coyote hunting.  Their excuse for the rule/law was "it wasn't socially acceptable".  WTF.......they should not be catering to some do gooders like that. 

What about there lack of support for us hunters when it comes to the tribal abuses in this State?  They should doing a better job with that.

They must be wasting money at the dept.  I bet if there was an audit, we could find all sorts of waste going on there.  I would bet that they could cut a bunch of jobs there (probably a lot of managers at the top) and not have to increase the price of the application fees.

And even if you feel "we have it pretty good right now", the writing is on the wall.  Things are just going to get worse and it seems like the WDFW is working against us.  It seems like we have to watch them like a hawk and fight for everything that they "give" us. :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2012, 09:57:21 PM »
I haven't studied up on the wolf plan too much, but I know they did their best to come up with something that would be accepted by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, as that is the federal agency that has control over the regulation of endangered species. Without a plan that is accepted the the USFWS, then lethal methods of wolf management would never be an option. My preference would be to have zero wolves in the state, but that's just not going to happen.

To me the wolf plan is irrelevant anyway. So the plan requires 15 breeding pairs, and if/when that number is met, and they are taken off the endangered species list, there still won't be any way to keep the numbers down in any significant way. The only methods of lethal control that would have a real impact still won't be allowed- like poison, trapping, and aerial gunning. So is the wolf plan really an issue? I don't think so.

Tribal hunting- well, I don't think the WDFW has the money to do much about it. They'd have to take it to court and that's just not in the budget. Especially now that the indians have casinos and other tax free revenue producers. The state just can't compete with that.

Night hunting? They didn't try to take it away. They came up with a proposal to limit calibers and shot sizes in an attempt to make it easier for game wardens in trying to catch people poaching deer and elk at night with spotlights.

Does that cover everything?



 


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