Entiat slaughter??

[Bigtine96]

Just dont ask lil red wagon

[cougarbart]

I will get bashed by most but why not start a" friends of the entiat club",  have respectful representation and ask for a meeting with the tribe and wdfw with this proof, and have reasonable solutions! like making winter grounds inaccessible by vehicle? or maybe asking the tribe to make those wintering grounds senior citizen hunting only?

[crazysccrmd]

Sky walker - to summarize, have who ever took the pictures write down all the details of who/what/when, provide the rest of the pictures and get them to Plat. It can't hurt, wouldn't be a lot of effort and might actually help lead to change.

[PlateauNDN]

All I can say about the picture I posted is this.....

I have family and friends that live in the Entiat area. They are well aware of what goes on up there. They seen the truck in town, so they took several cell phone pics. This was last Tuesday. Knowing I am a hunter and like to see deer, elk, etc. they sent them over too me a few days ago. Thou I am a newer member to this site, I have followed it since 2007. Knowing how the forum is; I debated on whether or not I should even post it. I figured that I could post 1 picture or 20 pictures, and what would it matter. The natives on here are going to say it is BS, photo shopped, etc. Even if I had a video, the natives would say he is not part of the Yakima tribe. Go blame the Mucks, etc. Bottom line....everyone including the natives knows what is going on up there. Deer getting slaughtered by the truck load. I could post more pics, but why? The forum will just shoot them down etc. That is why it took me 5 years to finally join this site. Everyone on here seems to know everything about everything.

Plat,
You may disagree with your tribal members actions, yet you seem to always fall back to the native position and make excuses for them. Example- I post a picture and you say...."that's not proof!" I expected you to say that!   Comprehend before you start making assumptions.  I didn't say it's not proof I asked for the facts, go back and read what I posted more slowly.  Besides I wasn't the only one asking the very same questions, I believe somebody above me asked the same question and they aren't a tribal member are you going to jump on them as well?  I asked for the facts of the picture.  Is the person that took the picture willing to verify where and when they took it?  Are they willing to verify and identify who they say driving the vehicle?  If not, then how do I know that was taken where you said it was?  It could've been taken anywhere with snow, a store and christmas decorations in the background and last time I checked a photo doesn't have to be dated to show the time of the year, it could've been taken 5 years ago during a snowy christmans day, are you getting where I'm going with this or do I have to slow down some???Explain to me the snow on the ground, ACE hardware store, Xmas decorations up in the background, the cross street sign, etc. What do I have to gain by posting this 1 picture? I don't know the answer to that but, something obviously if you shared them?  Like the game department is going to do something about it. And we all know the tribe won't. The game department and the tribe know who is doing it.  Again, assumptions our Leaders know what's going on with everybody.  They have plenty of their own pictures and documentation. We do?  And you know this how?  This is a federal issue, which is way bigger then Wa state. So go ahead and reply with your long winded rants. Nobody cares because you ride the fence and make excuses and get dogminded!  Duly noted.

Plat,
I don't read past the first 3 sentences of your posts. You too long winded. Type short concise sentences and maybe...maybe I will give you my time. If not, don't waste your own time as I won't read your novels.

If you can't take the time to read then why should I take the time to listen?  You expect me to do something and what do you offer in return?  An excuse yourself.  You can call me what you want but, the one making the excuses here is you.  Your excuse is you can't and won't read further then 3 lines but, you expect me to sit here and read your stories and believe them?  If you don't take the time nor care to how do you expect me to believe you?

I tell it like I see it, if I don't like something I'll do something about it.  I don't need to jump on a wagon because every else is, I don't need to wait for somebody else to say something before I say anything as some of you do.  I say exactly how I feel whether it's popular or not. 

Like I said before thank you to those that have provided credible proof.

I will get bashed by most but why not start a" friends of the entiat club",  have respectful representation and ask for a meeting with the tribe and wdfw with this proof, and have reasonable solutions! like making winter grounds inaccessible by vehicle? or maybe asking the tribe to make those wintering grounds senior citizen hunting only?

Thank you and here's a fine example of somebody trying to find solutions.

[Time Immemorial]

Uh plat uh good uh job uh

[jackelope]

All I can say about the picture I posted is this.....

I have family and friends that live in the Entiat area. They are well aware of what goes on up there. They seen the truck in town, so they took several cell phone pics. This was last Tuesday. Knowing I am a hunter and like to see deer, elk, etc. they sent them over too me a few days ago. Thou I am a newer member to this site, I have followed it since 2007. Knowing how the forum is; I debated on whether or not I should even post it. I figured that I could post 1 picture or 20 pictures, and what would it matter. The natives on here are going to say it is BS, photo shopped, etc. Even if I had a video, the natives would say he is not part of the Yakima tribe. Go blame the Mucks, etc. Bottom line....everyone including the natives knows what is going on up there. Deer getting slaughtered by the truck load. I could post more pics, but why? The forum will just shoot them down etc. That is why it took me 5 years to finally join this site. Everyone on here seems to know everything about everything.

Plat,
You may disagree with your tribal members actions, yet you seem to always fall back to the native position and make excuses for them. Example- I post a picture and you say...."that's not proof!" I expected you to say that!   Comprehend before you start making assumptions.  I didn't say it's not proof I asked for the facts, go back and read what I posted more slowly.  Besides I wasn't the only one asking the very same questions, I believe somebody above me asked the same question and they aren't a tribal member are you going to jump on them as well?  I asked for the facts of the picture.  Is the person that took the picture willing to verify where and when they took it?  Are they willing to verify and identify who they say driving the vehicle?  If not, then how do I know that was taken where you said it was?  It could've been taken anywhere with snow, a store and christmas decorations in the background and last time I checked a photo doesn't have to be dated to show the time of the year, it could've been taken 5 years ago during a snowy christmans day, are you getting where I'm going with this or do I have to slow down some???Explain to me the snow on the ground, ACE hardware store, Xmas decorations up in the background, the cross street sign, etc. What do I have to gain by posting this 1 picture? I don't know the answer to that but, something obviously if you shared them?  Like the game department is going to do something about it. And we all know the tribe won't. The game department and the tribe know who is doing it.  Again, assumptions our Leaders know what's going on with everybody.  They have plenty of their own pictures and documentation. We do?  And you know this how?  This is a federal issue, which is way bigger then Wa state. So go ahead and reply with your long winded rants. Nobody cares because you ride the fence and make excuses and get dogminded!  Duly noted.

Plat,
I don't read past the first 3 sentences of your posts. You too long winded. Type short concise sentences and maybe...maybe I will give you my time. If not, don't waste your own time as I won't read your novels.

Come on, man. You want to end this nonsense by you won't read a couple paragraphs?

[bobcat]

Like I said before thank you to those that have provided credible proof.

Like I said a couple pages back, why is proof needed? Everyone knows deer are being taken out of the Entiat in un-sustainable numbers. Why can't the tribe limit harvest in some way? How about putting an end to deer hunting when the deer are on the winter range? How about a limit of one deer per person?

[Harborhunter]

I will get bashed by most but why not start a" friends of the entiat club",  have respectful representation and ask for a meeting with the tribe and wdfw with this proof, and have reasonable solutions! like making winter grounds inaccessible by vehicle? or maybe asking the tribe to make those wintering grounds senior citizen hunting only?

Nobody should bash you for this idea.  This is what it is going to take and I think it is a great idea.  There needs to be cooperation between the WDFW, Tribe and sportsmen in able to eliminate what is happening up there.  A meeting would be great.  Concrete evidence needs to be brought forth and all groups need to respectfully collaborate in order to solve this problem. This is about the DEER, not user groups. There has been a lot of childish *censored* posted in these 18 pages so far, which does not help anyone's stance.  I know people have tried to present evidence, make calls and what not.  Great, thank you, that is the right thing to do.  We can't stop though.  If I lived closer, I would love to get involved and help.  I will help however I can from out here on the coast.  I think cougarbart brings up a good point though. It may not be easy to do, but if enough people get involved, i don't see why all parties would not want to meet and discuss the current situation on the Entiat winter range.  It is about THE DEER.

[skywalker253]

All I can say about the picture I posted is this.....

I have family and friends that live in the Entiat area. They are well aware of what goes on up there. They seen the truck in town, so they took several cell phone pics. This was last Tuesday. Knowing I am a hunter and like to see deer, elk, etc. they sent them over too me a few days ago. Thou I am a newer member to this site, I have followed it since 2007. Knowing how the forum is; I debated on whether or not I should even post it. I figured that I could post 1 picture or 20 pictures, and what would it matter. The natives on here are going to say it is BS, photo shopped, etc. Even if I had a video, the natives would say he is not part of the Yakima tribe. Go blame the Mucks, etc. Bottom line....everyone including the natives knows what is going on up there. Deer getting slaughtered by the truck load. I could post more pics, but why? The forum will just shoot them down etc. That is why it took me 5 years to finally join this site. Everyone on here seems to know everything about everything.

Plat,
You may disagree with your tribal members actions, yet you seem to always fall back to the native position and make excuses for them. Example- I post a picture and you say...."that's not proof!" I expected you to say that!   Comprehend before you start making assumptions.  I didn't say it's not proof I asked for the facts, go back and read what I posted more slowly.  Besides I wasn't the only one asking the very same questions, I believe somebody above me asked the same question and they aren't a tribal member are you going to jump on them as well?  I asked for the facts of the picture.  Is the person that took the picture willing to verify where and when they took it?  Are they willing to verify and identify who they say driving the vehicle?  If not, then how do I know that was taken where you said it was?  It could've been taken anywhere with snow, a store and christmas decorations in the background and last time I checked a photo doesn't have to be dated to show the time of the year, it could've been taken 5 years ago during a snowy christmans day, are you getting where I'm going with this or do I have to slow down some???Explain to me the snow on the ground, ACE hardware store, Xmas decorations up in the background, the cross street sign, etc. What do I have to gain by posting this 1 picture? I don't know the answer to that but, something obviously if you shared them?  Like the game department is going to do something about it. And we all know the tribe won't. The game department and the tribe know who is doing it.  Again, assumptions our Leaders know what's going on with everybody.  They have plenty of their own pictures and documentation. We do?  And you know this how?  This is a federal issue, which is way bigger then Wa state. So go ahead and reply with your long winded rants. Nobody cares because you ride the fence and make excuses and get dogminded!  Duly noted.

Plat,
I don't read past the first 3 sentences of your posts. You too long winded. Type short concise sentences and maybe...maybe I will give you my time. If not, don't waste your own time as I won't read your novels.

If you can't take the time to read then why should I take the time to listen?  You expect me to do something and what do you offer in return?  An excuse yourself.  You can call me what you want but, the one making the excuses here is you.  Your excuse is you can't and won't read further then 3 lines but, you expect me to sit here and read your stories and believe them?  If you don't take the time nor care to how do you expect me to believe you?

I tell it like I see it, if I don't like something I'll do something about it.  I don't need to jump on a wagon because every else is, I don't need to wait for somebody else to say something before I say anything as some of you do.  I say exactly how I feel whether it's popular or not. 

Like I said before thank you to those that have provided credible proof.

I will get bashed by most but why not start a" friends of the entiat club",  have respectful representation and ask for a meeting with the tribe and wdfw with this proof, and have reasonable solutions! like making winter grounds inaccessible by vehicle? or maybe asking the tribe to make those wintering grounds senior citizen hunting only?

Thank you and here's a fine example of somebody trying to find solutions.

I don't expect you or anybody to read my post or beleive my pictures. Like I said...I figured YOU SPECIFICALLY and the other natives would call BS. I have 11 more pictures I could post, but why? So you can pick them apart and make excuses. I am done wasting my time in this topic and on this site. I won't be very active any longer. Ban or delete me; I don't care. Go kill off all the deer and elk and make your ancestors proud!

[igotbigbulls]

post away! lets see em

[boneaddict]

Skywalker, I am not sure you are listening.   Plat has to take something to a bunch of folks sitting there with nothing to lose, nothing gain but are listening to him.   He shows them a pic with deer in a truck.  It could have been taken anywhere, anytime and in what context.  Just like Yak Ind pointed out.  .  They look at him like he is an idiot.    He is doing us a favor.   Help him tell his story.  It is in no offense to you or friends for the pic.  I honestly don't think he is making excuses.  He is drawing a pictire of what he is up against and quite frankly its pretty logical.   If you have photos then post them.   They aren't being picked apart.   

I had my truck videod last year and even had a sting operation sort of on me while out photographing.   I appreciated the fact someone was taking the trouble to do something.   

[Time Immemorial]

Ok skywalker 

[boneaddict]

Ok skywalker 

I know really....

I won't be very active any longer. Ban or delete me; I don't care.

If you have something to say, SAY IT.   Don't act like the kid in the playground that takes his ball and goes and stands in the corner and "plays with himself".   

If its important to you, stand up for it.   

[Skyvalhunter]

Yea get out of the corner and quit diddling yourself!!

[grundy53]

I would like plat to answer bobcats question that he has asked twice now.