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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 09:32:28 AM »
I spent some time looking at the WDFW budget, what can be accessed on line.  27% comes from license sales as near as I can figure.  29% comes from the feds.  15% from the state general fund.  The remainder from other sources.  How those moneys are allocated I could not find. 

It looks like WDFW is asking for one staff member for conflict management and funding for one person to spend about 60% if their time on coordination of the wolf reports.  They want to pay for the coordinator with a special Washington license plate with wolves on it.

Unless there are special allocations from the feds or at the state level for specific funds to go to the wolf management program it looks to me that you both are right.  All the money goes into one pot and they pay for projects out of it. 

This is why I think that it is important to get the information in a solid format to the state so we can get this things de-listed.  July 19th we had a pack in our drive way howling at the house.  They were not afraid of us and wanted to kill my Airedale.  These wolves are not afraid of people and that is a very bad mix.   There are kids that stand out on Pierre lake road in the mornings waiting for the school bus that one day the wolves are going to take down. 

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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2013, 09:51:11 AM »
It looks like WDFW is asking for one staff member for conflict management and funding for one person to spend about 60% if their time on coordination of the wolf reports.

1.6 people for the entire state and all/any wolf data collecting/conflict resolutions??

How stupid are these elected officials?  :bash: :bash: :bash:

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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2013, 03:25:30 PM »
Any one who wants to get together the 26th or 27th of march in the wedge  PM me and we will get it set up.

Who knows!! Maybe I will play also.

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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2013, 03:42:41 PM »
Any one who wants to get together the 26th or 27th of march in the wedge  PM me and we will get it set up.

Who knows!! Maybe I will play also.

I'm gonna do it Mr. "P" if it works out for me. Sounds like fun and good experience to learn sumpin'.
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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2013, 08:12:38 PM »
The State will remain pessimistic in order to stay their course of not ever wanting to delist, and NEVER allow hunting. 

And to think WDFW sold their elk meeting as  a way to create more opportunity for hunters because  they asked for a better elk experience in the n.e. .... when in actuallity it amounts to an extra handfull of cows/calves for the wolves.

What needs to happen is all those people who signed petitions supporting wolves, and those groups that support them, need to foot the bill for wolf management in its entirety.  Stop taking our monies for wolves, and make those who desire them pay for them.  Sell them wolf permits @ 40$ each, and then send overages, like cattle bills and helicopter bills to the pro wolf conservation groups.  Its time they pay for their impact on WDFW, and its time our deer/elk/bear/turkey/moose and what have you dollars stop funding wolves.

Fair is fair.......they are getting their cake at our expense,.

WDFW is not using license dollars to fund wolf management.  That said, you are entirely correct in that the wolves are eating cake at the sportmen's expense.  Never once in the entire reintroduction process have the wolf supporters stepped up to the plate and purchased big game winter ranges or purchased conservation easements to improve winter range for ungulates.  That has and will always be my #1 beef with this program.  The abundance of deer and elk was paid for through through years of PR funds and sportsman's dollars.

I think this is not correct. Look at this page, http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01344/wdfw01344.pdf
The way I read this the bulk of the money going into Endangered Species recovery comes from the State Wildlife Account. This is made up of  license revenue. Wolves would come under Endangered Species recovery.
It would seem all of the general fund money goes into fisheries.
I also believe the federal money comes in the form of grants generated from Pittman Robertson and Dingell Johnson funds which are basically generated by us.
I seem to remember the Legislature allocating money for wolf depredation funding to assist ranchers. I do not think any money was dedicated to wolf management.

Tell me where I am wrong.
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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2013, 08:31:27 PM »
I'm going by what Donny Martorello said at the latest round of wolf meetings.  He distinctly said no license dollars are paying for wolf management.
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Re: wolf biology 101
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2013, 09:13:24 PM »
I'm going by what Donny Martorello said at the latest round of wolf meetings.  He distinctly said no license dollars are paying for wolf management.

The page I posted seems to say differently.
I will admit the way things are all lumped together it is impossible to pull out any numbers on wolf management. One thing for sure it is not coming from General Fund monies, possibly from the Feds but that in a round about way comes from us.

Here's a page that shows $150,000 in expenditures from the State Wildlife Account for wolf monitoring.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/budget/2012_supp_operating/af-wolf_population_monitoring.pdf

It just seems I don't find monies dedicated to wolf management. That is the only way one could be sure nothing came from licenses. Mixing it all together and then drawing out of the common pot doesn't seem like a very good accounting process if you claim none comes from licenses.
Bruce Vandervort

 


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