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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2013, 03:06:23 PM »
Yep.....

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2013, 03:09:12 PM »
One touch of nature makes the whole world kin.

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2013, 03:11:40 PM »
Elk virgin indeed.....mule deer.

Here is the story if you want to read it....from back in 2010.....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,52802.msg644792.html#msg644792

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2013, 03:23:26 PM »
Dang those things have some monster sized hearts. Im reading through it now.
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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2013, 03:49:12 PM »
Dang those things have some monster sized hearts. Im reading through it now.

Size is equivalent to the animal.  Some game hearts are the size of your head Smossy.

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2013, 04:00:04 PM »
G...........would you say an elk heart goes about 10 lbs?

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2013, 04:04:13 PM »
No but hell no
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2013, 04:08:03 PM »
G...........would you say an elk heart goes about 10 lbs?
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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2013, 04:57:42 PM »
No liver period for me!
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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2013, 10:43:52 PM »
I have not done it nor will I. That just doesn't sound like a good idea. As far as the native man telling you it was a good idea and would help with your health. It must not work that well as the life expectancy of natives was extremely low.

 :chuckle: not sure where your info comes from but all of my grandparents going back several generations were all well into their 80's and 90's.
Simple google search of life expectancy of native americans (current and in the 1800's).
Something often misunderstood when looking at life expectancy is cause of death. Death from infection was very common back then, mostly eliminated now. Infant mortality was quite high back then, mostly eliminated now. Death from starvation was quite common back then, mostly eliminated now. Studies of native Americans that survived to adulthood prior to contact with Europeans shows them to be very healthy and long lived. They just had to survive being young and stupid without antibiotics. ;)

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2013, 07:25:26 AM »
I have not done it nor will I. That just doesn't sound like a good idea. As far as the native man telling you it was a good idea and would help with your health. It must not work that well as the life expectancy of natives was extremely low.

 :chuckle: not sure where your info comes from but all of my grandparents going back several generations were all well into their 80's and 90's.
Simple google search of life expectancy of native americans (current and in the 1800's).
Something often misunderstood when looking at life expectancy is cause of death. Death from infection was very common back then, mostly eliminated now. Infant mortality was quite high back then, mostly eliminated now. Death from starvation was quite common back then, mostly eliminated now. Studies of native Americans that survived to adulthood prior to contact with Europeans shows them to be very healthy and long lived. They just had to survive being young and stupid without antibiotics. ;)
I agree that those things played a factor in the distant past, however the avg life expectancy even today is 6-7 years shorter. That seems a significant difference to me.
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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2013, 07:32:22 AM »
todays life expectancy is shorter because of alchohol, and a lot of the kinds of  food of today!

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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2013, 07:41:10 AM »
todays life expectancy is shorter because of alchohol, and a lot of the kinds of  food of today!
I was talking about the difference between whites and natives.
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Re: IDIANS BELEIVE DO YOU ?
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2013, 11:30:18 AM »
todays life expectancy is shorter because of alchohol, and a lot of the kinds of  food of today!
I was talking about the difference between whites and natives.

That is referring to natives.  Our ancestors lived longer because there was no alcohol or the foods introduced to them by the pilgrims.  Take the Yakamas, its just under 2 of every 5 Yakamas has diabetes, the introduction of a new culture has had a big impact still being delt to this day.  That and a new generation of youth amd adults that choose to live unhealthy and be inactive.
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