Public Land Treestands?

[Jonathan_S]

If it is federal land the tree stand would be considered "abandoned" after X amount of hours, the timeframe differs from agency to agency. It is a federal crime to abandoned property on federal lands.

In terms of WDFW lands, all tree stands must be removed at the end of the hunting season.

There is no time limit on DNR lands.

So someone who steals (picks up an abandoned trail camera) after X hours is not legally a thief?  Interesting..

[rasbo]

I put cams up and tree stands and have left them for months, and at times till next season..I always expect them to be stolen.If they are no sweat.If you leave things out in the public its gonna happen..I wouldnt take or use somebodys stand because I know its not mine.But today is a different time than before..It always makes me wonder when guys get upset about leaving things in the woods..

[bigtex]

I put cams up and tree stands and have left them for months, and at times till next season..I always expect them to be stolen.If they are no sweat.If you leave things out in the public its gonna happen..I wouldnt take or use somebodys stand because I know its not mine.But today is a different time than before..It always makes me wonder when guys get upset about leaving things in the woods..

 

[rosscrazyelk]

I recently saw a new stand that you put up a brace  that can stay there permently and the tree stand will slide off of it. That is probably going to be the one I would get.
As far as using someone elses stand if you saw it. Forget it its not yours..
Have you ever heard about the hunter that shot other hunters over a tree stand? it was in Wisconsin I think.. Crazy stuff

[trophyhunt]

I put cams up and tree stands and have left them for months, and at times till next season..I always expect them to be stolen.If they are no sweat.If you leave things out in the public its gonna happen..I wouldnt take or use somebodys stand because I know its not mine.But today is a different time than before..It always makes me wonder when guys get upset about leaving things in the woods..

guys get up set because they don't want their chit taken, whether they expect it or not. I don't expect my truck to get stolen or broken into while hunting, or are you saying I should expect it? 

[turkeyfeather]

I put cams up and tree stands and have left them for months, and at times till next season..I always expect them to be stolen.If they are no sweat.If you leave things out in the public its gonna happen..I wouldnt take or use somebodys stand because I know its not mine.But today is a different time than before..It always makes me wonder when guys get upset about leaving things in the woods..

I have the same philosophy. I expect it to be gone, then if it is I am not disappointed. If it's still there then my day is off to a great start. It's all about perspective.

[Dan-o]

Do We have to really talk about this?  If its not yours, leave it the F alone?  Why is that so hard for some to get?  It's not a free for all just because its on public land!  Ok let's try this, if you feel funny or quilty about something, then it's probably wrong.  It's called your conscience, don't ignore it, if you burn up your conscience it will go away.  Simple guys.

What's wrong with discussing it?

Is it OK for one person to "reserve" public land?   But then it's not OK for another to use that same land?

Just because someone sees it different than you does not make them wrong....

[trophyhunt]

I'm all for discussions but its simple to some, if its NOT yours, leave it alone.  It's really simple, someone took the time scouting, put up a stand they probably spent money on.  Go a little further and find your own area, it's not your tree stand! What's to discuss!?  Just cause you parked your truck on forest service land doesn't mean I can sit in the back of it and eat my lunch, and wait for a deer to walk by?!! Simple guys, leave people's chit alone!?!


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[Stizz]

I leave mine up on public land for several months, no problems yet. But I do use a climbing stick to get in and out of the stand, then when I leave I just take the stick down and stash it in the brush... I figure that will keep most people honest, but at the end of the day its public land and you just never know.

[KFhunter]

If you leave metal in a tree you've destroyed the tree, the lumber plant will cull the whole tree.

Most logging is so mechanized anymore that odds are good no one will see that metal bracket you left in the tree to hang your stand on,  or the processor or tree limber will hit the metal and cause some damage, if the saw happens to land on the bracket you've destroyed a chain.


IMO someone who leaves metal in a tree is no better than some eco terrorist Elf member spiking a tree.   


Good way to get hunters kicked off timber lands....oh wait 

[KFhunter]

No problem with that,  but when someone leaves a stand for years and the chain is sunk in the tree 3-4 inches and the steps grown around where half the step is buried in the tree,  the tree is no longer marketable.

You've basically poached a tree. 

I can tell you have deep feelings for the wood.

I'll write this off as ignorance.  I'm not some hippy save a tree hugger either, but I do have some logging background and basic forest management knowledge.

You go and screw steps in a tree and forget about it you've not only culled a good 500bf of timber for a decent tree,  spike a big tree and it can get over 2000bf.   When a processor runs up and down the tree stripping limbs and cutting to length you're going to mess up the head and possibly ruin the mechanical  chainsaw if it lands on metal and probably caused some damage to logging equipment.



If I let hunters use my stand of timber and someone left metal in a tree I'd be ticked off when it took money out of my pocket.

[Skyvalhunter]

Here we go

[rasbo]

I put cams up and tree stands and have left them for months, and at times till next season..I always expect them to be stolen.If they are no sweat.If you leave things out in the public its gonna happen..I wouldnt take or use somebodys stand because I know its not mine.But today is a different time than before..It always makes me wonder when guys get upset about leaving things in the woods..

guys get up set because they don't want their chit taken, whether they expect it or not. I don't expect my truck to get stolen or broken into while hunting, or are you saying I should expect it?

yep we read about all they time,trail heads, camps robbed,deer taken,and elk..when I get back to my rig or arrive back at camp Im happy if things are left alone..do you lock your doors when you go on vacation,own a gun safe?Would you leave your gun in a stand or a bow for the next mornings hunt?

[huntnnw]

The it's on public property thing holds no water with me. Falls into the same category as someone pulling the sd card to look at your trail cam photos, or sitting in you truck. If it's not yours and it's not garbage your picking up, leave it alone.

I sort of agree, but then again, if you leave it on public property and somebody uses it, I just don't think you have a right to complain.       


 Damage or theft is a different matter....

so if I were to use your camp on public land while you were out hunting would just be fine...Im not stealing or damaging anything...

[kneckshot 1]

the.key word is PUBLIC there is no expectation of how the public will
 behave or not to behave