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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education
« Reply #165 on: January 30, 2014, 10:09:33 PM »

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Those are parenting issues, not wdfw issues  :twocents:
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Until you or one of your family are killed by some unattended kid.
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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education
« Reply #166 on: January 30, 2014, 10:23:57 PM »

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Those are parenting issues, not wdfw issues  :twocents:

Until you or one of your family are killed by some unattended kid.
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Oh Yeah, and that happens so often we should pass new more restrictive laws....   :bash:

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education
« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2014, 10:01:06 AM »

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Those are parenting issues, not wdfw issues  :twocents:

Until you or one of your family are killed by some unattended kid.
   
 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:



 And HERE is the "money grab"............

1) All hunters under age fourteen must be accompanied, while hunting:
(a) By a hunter:
(i) Who is currently licensed to hunt in Washington;    Youth license $  x 3

Oh Yeah, and that happens so often we should pass new more restrictive laws....   :bash:
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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #168 on: January 31, 2014, 10:50:19 AM »
The Senate Bill passed out of committee with two big changes:
1- Reduces the $20 to $10
2- Allows those that were born before 1972 to be classified as accompanying adults in terms of accompanying minor hunters

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #169 on: January 31, 2014, 10:41:52 PM »
The Senate Bill passed out of committee with two big changes:
1- Reduces the $20 to $10
2- Allows those that were born before 1972 to be classified as accompanying adults in terms of accompanying minor hunters

Are they listening to HW?  It's like they read our minds  :chuckle:
Just to be clear anyone born prior to 1972 can accompany a minor without a hunters safety certificate or hunting license....


I'm running out of reasons to oppose this bill.

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/31 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #170 on: February 01, 2014, 11:21:45 AM »
It's getting better, but if you are an adult (born before Feb. 1, 1996) you should be able to acompany yours or someone else's kids.  What makes a 42 y.o. more qualified to accompany than a 24 year old?

This is still a money grab and simply phases in the "licensed hunter" part.   :bash:   :bash:  Don't let them fool you KF.

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/31 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #171 on: February 01, 2014, 11:24:55 AM »
It's getting better, but if you are an adult (born before Feb. 1, 1996) you should be able to acompany yours or someone else's kids.  What makes a 42 y.o. more qualified to accompany than a 24 year old?

This is still a money grab and simply phases in the "licensed hunter" part.   :bash:   :bash:  Don't let them fool you KF.

I don't think it's a "money grab" but I agree with the rest of your post. It's okay for now but in the future why can't grandpa take the grandkids hunting without having a license himself?

Oh well, to use a phrase from another thread, "it is what is is."   :chuckle:

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #172 on: February 01, 2014, 10:41:33 PM »
I read all of this and can fully understand why people feel the way they do.


But, I think it needs said AGAIN......


Thank You Bigtex!  You are informing us, adding to the debate to allow folks to hash it out while keeping very neutral.  Not easy to do and much appreciated  :tup:

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #173 on: February 02, 2014, 07:39:49 AM »
The Senate Bill passed out of committee with two big changes:
1- Reduces the $20 to $10
2- Allows those that were born before 1972 to be classified as accompanying adults in terms of accompanying minor hunters


Other than it was a MUCH BETTER  ( So many fewer laws,regulations, and gates) time to live in this state, my favorite year of Chevy truck, we had a republican governor, and the "immaculate reception" occurred......................................just WHAT is so magical about 1972

Could it be that was  the cutoff date when kids and parents had common sense?
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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education
« Reply #174 on: February 02, 2014, 09:29:07 AM »
 
So NONE of the 3 points of the proposed legislation have ANY redeeming qualities? If the Younger ones cannot pass they will get another chance, but If they can. this bill would not let them        So some think that under the age of 8 children don't need to be trained or made aware of firearm safety?

Number 1 and number 3 I like. Number 2 is the one I disagree with.

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Why not just a licensed adult?  I didn't have to take hunters ed, so would that rule prevent me from taking my boys hunting???

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #175 on: February 03, 2014, 01:53:29 PM »
The Senate Bill passed out of committee with two big changes:
1- Reduces the $20 to $10
2- Allows those that were born before 1972 to be classified as accompanying adults in terms of accompanying minor hunters
Are they listening to HW?  It's like they read our minds  :chuckle:
Just to be clear anyone born prior to 1972 can accompany a minor without a hunters safety certificate or hunting license....
I'm running out of reasons to oppose this bill.
Correct. If you were born before 1972 you can accompany a minor and you do not need to have a license.

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #176 on: February 03, 2014, 01:54:19 PM »
The Senate Bill passed out of committee with two big changes:
1- Reduces the $20 to $10
2- Allows those that were born before 1972 to be classified as accompanying adults in terms of accompanying minor hunters
WHAT is so magical about 1972
It's the year hunter ed became mandatory in WA.

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/31 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #177 on: February 03, 2014, 02:00:25 PM »
As of today both the Senate and House bills are in each chamber's fiscal/appropriations committee which looks at funding. The issue right now is the bills are now different.

The House bill has lowered the $20 fee to $10 and allows those born before 1972 to accompany hunters even if they don't have a license.

The Senate bill still has the $20 fee and still requires the accompanying hunter to either be atleast 18 and licensed, or at least 18 and have attended hunter's ed.

So in the House bill the 65 year old grandpa could accompany his grandson without further restrictions. In the Senate bill the 65 year old grandpa would either need to be licensed or have attended hunter's ed.

House is controlled by the Democrats, the Senate is controlled by the Republicans.

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/15 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #178 on: February 03, 2014, 02:02:07 PM »
I read all of this and can fully understand why people feel the way they do.


But, I think it needs said AGAIN......


Thank You Bigtex!  You are informing us, adding to the debate to allow folks to hash it out while keeping very neutral.  Not easy to do and much appreciated  :tup:
:yeah:  :tup:
Thanks guys, I appreciate it!

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Re: WDFW Requested Legislation: Hunter Education Introduced 1/31 BIG CHANGE
« Reply #179 on: February 05, 2014, 10:40:40 PM »
As of today both the Senate and House bills are in each chamber's fiscal/appropriations committee which looks at funding. The issue right now is the bills are now different.

The House bill has lowered the $20 fee to $10 and allows those born before 1972 to accompany hunters even if they don't have a license.

The Senate bill still has the $20 fee and still requires the accompanying hunter to either be atleast 18 and licensed, or at least 18 and have attended hunter's ed.

The House Bill and Senate Bill have both now reduced the $20 fee to $10 and both allow those born before 1972 to accompany hunters even if they don't have a license.

 


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