cougars killing wolves

[singleshot12]

Do they and do they eat them? anyone know? Since we can't really manage them ourselves properly, sure would be nice if cougars did fill their gut with K-9 meat rather than deer and elk.
I wonder if that has ever been considered by dfw and or the pro-wolf(predator) people? Just trying to make sense of the madness and think positive about this whole predator take over the world philosophy we are surrounded by

[Bean Counter]

I'm thinking that a solo cougar could take a solo wolf. Last I remember they were finding a lot more cougar meat in wolf poo than vice versa. Makes me think that a pack of wolves has no qualms hunting a lone lion.

[Bob33]

A cougar can eat two deer a week. A wolf eats 20 deer per year.

Which would you rather see survive?

[singleshot12]

That makes sense   Might be our only hope for balance in the future, by nature balancing it's self

I'm thinking that a solo cougar could take a solo wolf. Last I remember they were finding a lot more cougar meat in wolf poo than vice versa. Makes me think that a pack of wolves has no qualms hunting a lone lion.

[singleshot12]

A cougar can eat two deer a week. A wolf eats 20 deer per year.

Which would you rather see survive?

One wolf eats 20 deer a week? or one pack?

Would rather see both on the endangered species list

[buckfvr]

I am of the understanding that wolf packs wreak havoc on kittens/adolescent and cubs/adolescent..........

Regardless of who kills how many a year or week.....they all need more agressive management.   

[wolfbait]

Montana did a wolf/cougar study some years back, through their study they confirmed that wolves either kill cougars or run them off. I believe I posted this study on W-H in 09 or 10.

As we have seen in the past two wolves can take down just about anything except a grizzly bear. Unless it is in the winter, where wolves have been known to get groggy bears out of their dens, and play with them until they are walking around in their own guts.

[wolfbait]

A cougar can eat two deer a week. A wolf eats 20 deer per year.

Which would you rather see survive?

How big are the deer you are referring to Bob33? The reason I ask is it has been well documented that one wolf will kill 22 to 28 elk per year, that does not include surplus killings.

[Bob33]

A cougar can eat two deer a week. A wolf eats 20 deer per year.

Which would you rather see survive?

One wolf eats 20 deer a week? or one pack?

Would rather see both on the endangered species list

An average wolf is estimated to eat 20 deer per year, plus or minus.

[wolfbait]

Cougars are  different then wolves, in the fact they will bury their kills and eat on them later, wolves eat their fill and go kill again. Past studies reported that one cougar will kill fifty deer per year.

[snowpack]

Yellowstone wolves ate around 26 elk per year per wolf.

[buckfvr]

Cougars are  different then wolves, in the fact they will bury their kills and eat on them later, wolves eat their fill and go kill again. Past studies reported that one cougar will kill fifty deer per year.

Provided the weather is right, and yotes and bears dont take over the kill.....at certain times of the year, cats kill fresh each time they feed.  ( you already know that ), just throwing it out there for those who arent in proximity to any significant numbers of predators.

[buckfvr]

Yellowstone wolves ate around 26 elk per year per wolf.

WHere wolves are concerned, eating and killing are two subjects..................

[singleshot12]

So wolves are pack animals and cougars usually solo. Wolves kill and keep killing after their fill. Cougars kill once bury and come back till they finish it? And in one on one combat the cougar usually wins correct?

All I know is my cat will play with and kill birds and rodents on a full belly so would think cougars would be the same

[singleshot12]

A cougar can eat two deer a week. A wolf eats 20 deer per year.

Which would you rather see survive?

One wolf eats 20 deer a week? or one pack?

Would rather see both on the endangered species list

An average wolf is estimated to eat 20 deer per year, plus or minus.

Ok gotcha! I mis read your post. 20 deer a year per wolf makes more sense