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Letter Regarding Colockum Elk - The Reel News "The Tribes Killed Elk"

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Elkaholic daWg:

--- Quote from: slyrei on December 29, 2009, 11:58:03 AM ---I might be the only person standing up for the tribesman, and I'm sure this will get attacked, but maybe it will make you think.  I really think you all are being a little quick to judge. How many of you would not hunt those same elk if given the opportunity? Plus, I'm certain that throughout the US there are far more White poachers than tribal poachers, or even tribal hunters.  There was a LOT more wildlife before non-natives arrived and i'm sure if given the choice, Native Americans would love to have us gone.  The reason wildlife populations decrease usually has more to do with habitat loss than hunting.  I don't know the situation specifically for elk but the article also mentions salmon, and tribesmen are definitely not to blame for that!  Commercial fishing aside, salmon habitat loss has devastated the population. Even if less were fished, they would have no where to go. We(non-natives) have done so much damage to both the wildlife and to the Native American way of life. Why not let them have a few privledges?! They probably wouldn't over-hunt them if there weren't white people buying elk products

Wait... wait... I take it all back. Like Maverick said in the movie:
"I figure its their fault... for being on our land before we got here." ;)

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#1 I see this is your first post
#2 this is not poachingwashington.com
#3 You have not done your homework before making the statement about " a LOT more wildlife"
 #4 You obviously have never hunted the Colockum area as many on here have for years or decades or generations and seen the changes
#5 As others have stated there were NO elk when the treaty was signed in this area

bonkellekter:

--- Quote from: Elkaholic daWg on December 31, 2009, 08:20:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: slyrei on December 29, 2009, 11:58:03 AM ---I might be the only person standing up for the tribesman, and I'm sure this will get attacked, but maybe it will make you think.  I really think you all are being a little quick to judge. How many of you would not hunt those same elk if given the opportunity? Plus, I'm certain that throughout the US there are far more White poachers than tribal poachers, or even tribal hunters.  There was a LOT more wildlife before non-natives arrived and i'm sure if given the choice, Native Americans would love to have us gone.  The reason wildlife populations decrease usually has more to do with habitat loss than hunting.  I don't know the situation specifically for elk but the article also mentions salmon, and tribesmen are definitely not to blame for that!  Commercial fishing aside, salmon habitat loss has devastated the population. Even if less were fished, they would have no where to go. We(non-natives) have done so much damage to both the wildlife and to the Native American way of life. Why not let them have a few privledges?! They probably wouldn't over-hunt them if there weren't white people buying elk products

Wait... wait... I take it all back. Like Maverick said in the movie:
"I figure its their fault... for being on our land before we got here." ;)

--- End quote ---




#1 I see this is your first post
#2 this is not poachingwashington.com
#3 You have not done your homework before making the statement about " a LOT more wildlife"
 #4 You obviously have never hunted the Colockum area as many on here have for years or decades or generations and seen the changes
#5 As others have stated there were NO elk when the treaty was signed in this area

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 :iamwithstupid:

It does not matter who was where when. We are all here now and none of us alive today played any part in what went down back in the day. And with all the efforts that have gone into equal rights in this country I just have to say that it is BS when a certain "people" get special rights above and beyond everyones "equal rights"

high country:
as long as there is entitlement ther will be jealousy an hatred.

chances are that not one of the surviving tribesmen have endured a single moment of hardship that was not brought upon themselves. should we donate the train right of ways to the chinese who were forced to slave on them? should we give the japanese reservations to repay the land that was taken from them during ww2 internment? those were the times as are these....deal with it. I have respect for native corps in alaska....they run their land like a business.

Geno:

--- Quote from: sako223 on December 29, 2009, 12:31:11 PM ---I don't think the elk were here when Lewis & Clark arrived.

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:yeah:

The tribes claim they have the right to hunt animals in their "ceded" lands. The elk never existed there when the treaty was signed. What gives them the legal right to hunt them? I think they should follow all game laws for eastern wa elk herds except those elk found on the reservation. :twocents:

Houndhunter:
im suprized some indians have the ambition to do anything

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