Wolf on trail cam in Snoqualmie

[jackelope]

It's unclear if this is the I-90 roadkilled black wolf or not, but this wolf was caught on camera on a friend's neighbor's property outside Snoqualmie on 4/23/15.

[notellumcreek]

saw this on FB... hopefully this will be more fuel for the right causes in delisting, confirming packs, etc.

[bearpaw]

Thanks for posting, it would sure be nice to know if this one is still alive and how many more are in the general area?

[MLBowhunting]

They are sneaky. 

[usmc74]

I know I have been seeing LARGE "dog" tracks in the forest around there, without the required human footprint.

Time to hang more cameras

[jackelope]

Thanks for posting, it would sure be nice to know if this one is still alive and how many more are in the general area?

Just got word from a friend....this one is the same one killed on the freeway they think.

[Watimberghost]

Of course it was

[pianoman9701]

 

[WAPatriot]

Was the pic from north or south of I90? Of course the liberals will say this wolf is the one struck by a vehicle.

[bobcat]

How does being liberal have anything to do with whether a person believes the wolf in the picture is the same wolf killed by a car? I must be missing something. 

If they look similar and if the trail cam picture was taken near where the wolf was killed on the road, why couldn't it be the same wolf? Seems like a fairly high probability that it is. 

[jackelope]

Was the pic from north or south of I90? Of course the liberals will say this wolf is the one struck by a vehicle.

North side of I-90. Just outside the town of Snoqualmie.

The picture came from within a few miles of the roadkill. Maybe 3-5 miles?  That is a fact. I know where the camera is and I know where the roadkill happened.

[KFhunter]

pretty coat on that one,  can't wait to hunt them in WA

[Watimberghost]

I thought the NW Sportsman piece said the wolf was hit in between mile markers 41 & 42. That would put it further than 3-5 miles from Snoqualmie. Did they report that right, or was it killed closer to North Bend?

[mkcj]

Wolf Haven has more they can release.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Man ...he sure would look nice in my game room 

[turkeyfeather]

yeah. I will do more for wolf management this year than you will for the rest of your life.  Stupid garbage like you posted makes hunters look like idiots.  Ignorant crap posted here gives antis more fuel to gather support. 

Keep on topic.  what the hell does any of this have to do with bombs

WTH are you talking about. 

[bobcat]

yeah. I will do more for wolf management this year than you will for the rest of your life.  Stupid garbage like you posted makes hunters look like idiots.  Ignorant crap posted here gives antis more fuel to gather support. 

Keep on topic.  what the hell does any of this have to do with bombs

WTH are you talking about. 

My fault- I just removed the post that he was replying to, along with a few others.

[turkeyfeather]

yeah. I will do more for wolf management this year than you will for the rest of your life.  Stupid garbage like you posted makes hunters look like idiots.  Ignorant crap posted here gives antis more fuel to gather support. 

Keep on topic.  what the hell does any of this have to do with bombs

WTH are you talking about. 

My fault- I just removed the post that he was replying to, along with a few others.

Ah, that makes sense then. 

[splitshot]

   bombs?         mike w

[WAPatriot]

Bobcat why infringe on my right to freedom of speech. I have not used profanity or threatened anyone. Please explain.

[WAPatriot]

My posts were not personal attacks directed at anyone until I was called a knuckledragging maggot because I support addressing our wolf problem through non mainstream means. I know I am a minority but I feel I should have the right to express my opinions and views.  Wolves need to die through any means necessary. Why ban me for saying that it's not illegal to voice your opinion.

[jackelope]

 Did you read the rules of this forum when you signed up? If not, you might review them before you post anymore.

[Bob33]

My posts were not personal attacks directed at anyone until I was called a knuckledragging maggot because I support addressing our wolf problem through non mainstream means. I know I am a minority but I feel I should have the right to express my opinions and views.  Wolves need to die through any means necessary. Why ban me for saying that it's not illegal to voice your opinion.

You haven't been banned and legality has nothing to do with some posts being removed.

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[mountainman]

Late to the party, so dont know exactly what was voiced in this thread, but reffering to the comment above..members have been advicating S.S.S. on here for a long time. Is that advocating illegal activity? Please clarify?

[bobcat]

Yes I would say it is but oftentimes it's a lot less blatant than what we saw in this thread tonight.

On top of that, it turned into personal attacks, and we know from past experience that to allow it to continue like that is not a good idea!

[jackelope]

Late to the party, so dont know exactly what was voiced in this thread, but reffering to the comment above..members have been advicating S.S.S. on here for a long time. Is that advocating illegal activity? Please clarify?

We do our best to curb that. What WAPatriot said was a lot more extreme than that. We do our best but we don't get them all. Thanks for pointing that out though!!

[jackelope]

Yes I would say it is but oftentimes it's a lot less blatant than what we saw in this thread tonight.

On top of that, it turned into personal attacks, and we know from past experience that to allow it to continue like that is not a good idea!

Right on Bob. Allowing members to continue going after each other time and time again never works out well for anyone involved.

[pianoman9701]

Bobcat why infringe on my right to freedom of speech. I have not used profanity or threatened anyone. Please explain.

First of all, this forum isn't a democracy and your speech isn't protected. It's an autocracy and Bearpaw writes the rules to be used on his forum. They're the law here, not the Constitution. Secondly, tens of thousands of WA hunters are represented by this site. Even if it were a democracy, voicing your support of illegal acts, like poaching and killing endangered species, reflects badly on the hunting community as a whole. You may or may not have widespread support for your views. Many of us feel that the wolf plan is outrageous. However, the many anti-hunters who monitor and in fact, participate in this site relish the opportunity to point and tell the world "hunters don't care about wildlife, endangered species, and they advocate poaching." When statements are made which support their ranting, it makes non-hunters take pause and consider their radical stances against hunting.

[Russ McDonald]

  Hope this hasn't carried on over to my thread of the wolves I got on video.  After I saw this picture it cemented that what I saw were wolves.

[WAcoyotehunter]

I am sorry for name calling and de railing this thread.

[elk247]

Thanks for posting the pic Jackelope. I hope to see more pictures of westside wolves this year posted to the effect of documenting established packs/breeding pairs so we can sooner have them delisted. Unless the wolf plan gets amended, of course.

[Dave Workman]

North side of I-90. Just outside the town of Snoqualmie.

The picture came from within a few miles of the roadkill. Maybe 3-5 miles?  That is a fact. I know where the camera is and I know where the roadkill happened.

Actually closer to 10-11 miles if the location of the kill was correct. This image came from a place out on the old Reinig Road IIRC, which runs along the north side of the mainstem Snoqualmie River from Snoqualmie upriver toward the base of Mount Si and the North Fork Road.
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[Dave Workman]

Thanks for posting the pic Jackelope. I hope to see more pictures of westside wolves this year posted to the effect of documenting established packs/breeding pairs so we can sooner have them delisted. Unless the wolf plan gets amended, of course.

I want to see more pictures of westside wolves gnawing on Queen Anne Hill Tree Huggers ..      

Just had a brain (pick a word)... remember the old Rainier Beer commercials with the herd of Rainiers?  Or the old Ivar's commercial, "Dances with Clams"

With a good video camera, a decent choreographer and an afternoon to waste, that'd make a heck of a tongue-in-cheek video....Dances with Rainiers and Clams on Queen Anne Hill. We'd all be run out of Seattle, which ain't that bad of a consequence, once you think about that.

[jackelope]

North side of I-90. Just outside the town of Snoqualmie.

The picture came from within a few miles of the roadkill. Maybe 3-5 miles?  That is a fact. I know where the camera is and I know where the roadkill happened.

Actually closer to 10-11 miles if the location of the kill was correct. This image came from a place out on the old Reinig Road IIRC, which runs along the north side of the mainstem Snoqualmie River from Snoqualmie upriver toward the base of Mount Si and the North Fork Road.
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After further review, I agree that 10 miles is more accurate. Sorry for the mis-information. It was an inaccurate guesstimate. I shoulda known better.

[WAcoyotehunter]

that's a nice wolf.  Hopefully there are some more and we can get this requirement met and move on with management

[AKBowman]

I know I have been seeing LARGE "dog" tracks in the forest around there, without the required human footprint.

Time to hang more cameras

I love and hunt the area and am in the woods at least every other weekend. I have seen what you described above a couple times last summer. Big dog tracks and no boot prints. Big, big dog tracks I thought. I now believe these to be wolf as they were in the general area where the local North Bend / Snoqualmie elk herd hangs out.

I found a somewhat fresh deer leg bone this past weekend on a chunk of State land I hunt. I wrote it off to a bear or cat but I would not put it past being a wolf kill.

I'll check the cams this summer and will
Know for sure

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I don't post much on here anymore because of all the arguing and double standards. Seems the "regulars" can say just about anything and get away with it. Someone that is in the minority either gets banned or their opinions deleted. To be fair to the poster in question. How many times a day do we all read "shoot, shovel, and shut up" when it comes to wolves. I believe that would be a violation of the forum rules (advocating illegal activity). I don't see moderators deleting those posts and warning members of their activity. I agree with deleting the comments to protect the way hunters look, etc. We don't want to be sending the wrong message. All I am saying is...you have a ton of topic editing to do when it comes to SSS on this site, and the moderators send the message of double standards, etc. IMO it makes the site lose creditability and sends a message of bias. 2 cents

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I don't post much on here anymore because of all the arguing and double standards. Seems the "regulars" can say just about anything and get away with it. Someone that is in the minority either gets banned or their opinions deleted. To be fair to the poster in question. How many times a day do we all read "shoot, shovel, and shut up" when it comes to wolves. I believe that would be a violation of the forum rules (advocating illegal activity). I don't see moderators deleting those posts and warning members of their activity. I agree with deleting the comments to protect the way hunters look, etc. We don't want to be sending the wrong message. All I am saying is...you have a ton of topic editing to do when it comes to SSS on this site, and the moderators send the message of double standards, etc. IMO it makes the site lose creditability and sends a message of bias. 2 cents

What you said above is very true.

Unfortunately there are a few who advocate for illegal activity and spout untruths and insult others regularly with impunity.  And the mods are often supporting them or ignoring.  While I support an open forum I cringe when I read many posts by certain experts on this site because they really make hunter look ignorant and worse. 

[mountainman]

This point has been brought up before with the mods, and it has gotten better imo..

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I don't post much on here anymore because of all the arguing and double standards. Seems the "regulars" can say just about anything and get away with it. Someone that is in the minority either gets banned or their opinions deleted. To be fair to the poster in question. How many times a day do we all read "shoot, shovel, and shut up" when it comes to wolves. I believe that would be a violation of the forum rules (advocating illegal activity). I don't see moderators deleting those posts and warning members of their activity. I agree with deleting the comments to protect the way hunters look, etc. We don't want to be sending the wrong message. All I am saying is...you have a ton of topic editing to do when it comes to SSS on this site, and the moderators send the message of double standards, etc. IMO it makes the site lose creditability and sends a message of bias. 2 cents

The comments that the member made that were subsequently deleted, which prompted my post that you quoted, were a lot more aggressive than the typical SSS posts you mention, and there were multiple posts from multiple members promoting illegal means, name calling and personal attacks,  then multiple questions why posts were deleted. 
We average 44 new threads a day and 680 posts per day. As I type this, there are 4 moderators online. We can't be everywhere at once. If you see something alarming, something against the rules or inappropriate in any way, we encourage you to help us out by clicking the "Report to Moderator" tab. There's one of these tabs at the bottom right of every post box. This will send us all a message with a link to the thread/post that you are alerting us to.
It's very hard to get banned on hunt-wa anymore. A perma-ban is mostly unheard of. 99% of the time we start with a warning, then a 1 day ban for a 2nd offense, and the time frame expands from there.  Posts get deleted all the time for various reasons.
Anyway...hope that helps a little. And like I said...if you see a comment that needs to be addressed, please feel free to "Report to Moderator" and we'll see it and address what needs to be dealt with.
Thank you.

[stromdiddily]

That wolf is grade a creepy

[ctwiggs1]

Bobcat why infringe on my right to freedom of speech. I have not used profanity or threatened anyone. Please explain.

First of all, this forum isn't a democracy and your speech isn't protected. It's an autocracy and Bearpaw writes the rules to be used on his forum. They're the law here, not the Constitution. Secondly, tens of thousands of WA hunters are represented by this site. Even if it were a democracy, voicing your support of illegal acts, like poaching and killing endangered species, reflects badly on the hunting community as a whole. You may or may not have widespread support for your views. Many of us feel that the wolf plan is outrageous. However, the many anti-hunters who monitor and in fact, participate in this site relish the opportunity to point and tell the world "hunters don't care about wildlife, endangered species, and they advocate poaching." When statements are made which support their ranting, it makes non-hunters take pause and consider their radical stances against hunting.

 

[Spuddieselwwu]

Is this the same wolf that was caught on a trail cam video on 4/24 in Snoqualmie?

[jackelope]

Is this the same wolf that was caught on a trail cam video on 4/24 in Snoqualmie?

It is rumored to be. Not sure there's a way to say for sure. Also the same wolf rumored to have been killed on I-90.